China Dictatorship 中国独裁统治

No.

This is not revenge of any kind.

He knows he is harming you in the short term, and he doesn’t like that.

But he believes that this harm is a necessary means to reach his real goal, which is to destroy the firewall, and the dictatorship.

Don’t you think it is worth a try? Destroying the firewall, would enormously benefit not only Chinese programmers, but every single other Chinese person too.

Once the firewall is destroyed, which may destroy the dictatorship, he want China to develop the best science and technology in the world, and [would-you-like-to-live-in-china].

And by the way, with his extensive contributions to open source software, Ciro is already helping China, and all underdeveloped countries, become stronger.

See also: Keyword attack profiles disturb me.

2.1.1.1. Does Ciro Santilli want to make the Chinese people people look bad?

Obviously not, if you even thought about this, it is likely because of: The commies exaggerate the threat of the West to keep in power.

Don’t you see that this is just pure and simple politics? And likely ineffective one at that: Keyword attacks on programming websites will never have any effect.

• everyone is brainwashed by their environment: brainwashed

• it is impossible to prove who is right or wrong in politics: Why does Ciro Santilli say that democracy is a religion just like Falun Gong?

• not even the CCP is evil: Is the Chinese government evil? 中国共产党是邪恶吗？

No, that is just a side effect.

If that were the case, I would definitely target more widely technologies, in particular Web and JavaScript, instead of obscure things like C and assembly in which I have spent tons of my time.

Also, as I’ve said elsewhere, my actions are very unlikely to have any actions. Much more likely to have any action, would be for me to become rich and powerful first, and the best way to do that is to invest in whatever I think is most useful.

Actually, it can even be argued that I’m somewhat irrational, since I would be much more likely to become rich and powerful by bowing down to the CCP and trying to get their money instead.

On the other hand, becoming rich and powerful is also highly unlikely, so maybe I’m just taking a low-risk low-reward path?

I have very little free time, and will never do something for political reasons, only things that interest me technically.

Finally, do you really think I’d be able to do such awesome projects if I had primarily political considerations in mind? XD

2.2.1.1. Is Ciro Santilli making trivial edits on questions just to spam your name further?

There is infinite debate about this out there, some examples:

• https://www.becker-posner-blog.com/2011/05/can-poor-countries-afford-democracy-becker.html (archive)

• https://www.quora.com/Is-democracy-or-authoritarianism-better-for-developing-countries

For:

• dictatorships are more likely to start Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? or other crazy policies like the Great Leap Forward, which completely destroy the economy in one go

• society becomes richer when people know that they can do their startups, get rich, and stay in the country without fear of being persecuted unfairly and losing everything instead of migrating to Canada.

  Any criticism of the government, even if constructive, is taken as menace to power, and more likely to be shut down, which makes the government and just becomes less efficient since there is less feedback.

• governments are monopolies, and the more powerful they are, the worst it is for competition an efficiency in general. E.g.: the startup with better government ties wins, instead of the most efficient one.

Against:

• presidents only care about the 4-8 year horizon, while dictators can make longer term decisions to maintain power forever, their power being limited only by "the people are happy enough to not start a revolution"

• dictatorships can make changes faster without the same amount of discussion that happens in democracies, where power is more spread out.

  Killing a million people will make us richer? No problem, let’s do it.

  That is great when they make good decisions, but it sucks when they make bad ones more likely.

I really like Posners' way of putting it:

While average rate of growth do not appear to differ much between democracies and authoritarian regimes, the variability in performance does differ more among authoritarian governments. China has had remarkable growth since the 1980s, but the prolonged devastation and hardship produced by China’s "Great Leap Forward 大跃进 (1958-1960)" (when millions of farmers starved to death) and its Cultural Revolution would unlikely have occurred in a democratic country like say India. Nor is it likely that say Cuba and many African nations would have suffered so long with such terrible economic policies if they had reasonably democratic institutions.

Maybe China was poor because of Mao’s crazy communist regime. Similar regimes also made Russia 俄罗斯 poor. And yes, before that exploitation by the West may have been a factor.

Definitely, the current regime is better than Mao’s, but just imagine how rich China could be if it had more freedom and justice.

Imperial China lost the race for the Industrial Revolution. Will another dictatorship be able to stay on top of the next technological revolution?

Dictatorships need Censorship 审查 to survive, and they must control all information to make themselves always look good: Would ending the Great Firewall truly end the dictatorship?.

As a result, knowledge of problems flows more slowly, and therefore they also take longer to solve.

Maybe this hurts the argument, but Hillary agrees: :-)

But countries that restrict free access to information or violate the basic rights of internet users risk walling themselves off from the progress of the next century

Also mentioned at: Google versus China - VPRO documentary - 2011

This is also the basis of a What is a screen name keyword attack?.

This is also well illustrated in the HBO 2019 miniseries "Chernobyl", which suggests that part of the reason why Chernobyl happened is because of the Soviet Union’s obsession to save face.

This suggestion is even more explicit in the fictional World War Z 2006 novel by Max Brooks about a virus outbreak in China. It was later adapted into the World War Z (2013) movie by Paramount:

• https://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/jun/04/brad-pitt-china-world-war-z: Paramount cowards tried to kowtow and remove references to China from the movie, but it failed

• https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/china-barred-my-dystopian-novel-about-how-its-system-enables-epidemics/2020/02/27/cc0446f0-58e5-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html: no Chinese publisher dared publish the book unless China references were removed, which the author declined, and so the book was not published in China

Or if you prefer:

The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.

Amartya Sen is another famous proponent of similar arguments in the area of hungers: https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/211/44284.html (archive)

In democratic countries, even very poor ones, the survival of the ruling government would be threatened by famine, since elections are not easy to win after famines; nor is it easy to withstand criticism of opposition parties and newspapers. That is why famine does not occur in democratic countries. Unfortunately, there are a great many countries in the world which do not yet have democratic systems.

although like any other political argument, some disagree.

Virus outbreaks and other natural disasters also illustrate this well: Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus 2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查.

2.3.2.1. Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus 2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查

This has been discussed to death:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_peace_theory

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_Peace:_A_Philosophical_Sketch

Some arguments include:

• the people who will actually fight and die on the front can’t vote against it

• dictators have huge power, so if they put it in their heads that they want to start a war, it is much harder for sensible people to stop them

• dictators need to keep the people in fear all the time to keep their power, and a war is a great way to achieve that

When will they be ready? Who decides? What if they think that they are ready now?

In George Bernard Shaw’s "Maxims for Revolutionists" words:

Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few.

Many democracy supporters jokingly recognize democracy’s shortcomings.

A fake Churchill quote:

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

Art Spander:

The great thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid.

Laurence J Peter:

Democracy is a process by which the people are free to choose the man who will get the blame.

2.3.4.1. The Chinese masses are not interested in politics and therefore not ready to vote

One of the key points of Xi Jinping’s governments has been to quench corruption. And use that as an excuse to get rid of rivals while at it.

However, there is one much better solution to that: democracy and freedom of speech.

The reason is obvious: with censorship, corrupt politicians can internal censorship anything bad that they did, and so it becomes much harder to destroy corruption.

In George Bernard Shaw’s "Maxims for Revolutionists" words:

Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for corruption,appointment by the corrupt few.

Figure 6. House of Cards S01E02 "Nobody can hear you. Nobody cares about you. Nothing will come of this." GIF. Source.

The keyword attack is basically an embargo.

There is already a lot of literature about this, especially in the cases of Cuba and North Korea. It is basically a libertarian vs conservative / Cato vs Heritage thing in the US:

• https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/no-embargo-harms-cubans-gives-castro-excuse-policy-failures-regime

• https://www.heritage.org/trade/report/why-the-cuban-trade-embargo-should-be-maintained

• https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea/2006/08/thanks_for_the_sanctions.html

The key dilemma is:

• if we keep contact with the Dictatorship, maybe its people will see that democracy is better and start a liberating revolution

• if we keep giving technology to the Dictatorship and it does not become a democracy, we are making a Dictatorship more technologically advanced, and therefore dangerous

Some interesting aspects of the keyword attack embargo:

• it is immediately self-enforcing: we don’t need politicians to decide and enforce the complex "if you do this, we punish you like that" question.

  By political and technological information is together, and this immediately puts the dictatorship in a bad spot, without us having to decide anything.

• by affecting programmers in particular through Stack Overflow and GitHub, we make them more likely to develop better Firewall climbing tools themselves

One point in favor of the embargo is that China has opened up since the '80s '90s, but did freedom improve at all? Under Xi Jinping 习近平 (2012-∞), it may be argued that it did not, and maybe that we should just stop feeding them technology and accept that they won’t become free.

Trump’s 2019 China trade war, and in particular the Huawei 华为 ban, is an event that has brought this question to the spotlight once again.

2.4.1.1. Keyword attacks could be used by certain CCP political groups to justify blocking off the entire external Internet, and make the dictatorship even more pervasive

That is true with high probability, just like any other individual who tries to influence 1B people.

Every action is statistical: I just push the balance a little bit towards freedom.

This FAQ and any talk is useless. You and I are wasting our time here.

The possibility of blocking Stack Overflow and GitHub is 1000x more useful than any talk, but it is still useless.

However, potentially blocking those websites takes 0 of my time, I just leave the content there, so it is worth my time.

To have an idea, in 2015 there are about:

• 20M developers in the world

• 2M in China : https://www.quora.com/Approximately-how-many-programmers-are-there-in-the-world https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/european-technology/there-are-185-million-software-developers-in-the-world-but-which-country-has-the-most/

• 5M Stack Overflow users https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/227868/select-count-from-users

• TODO I wonder what percentage of GDP those programmers control. I’ll bet any programmer on Stack Overflow is at least 5x more powerful than the average Chinese.

And if we never start somewhere, nothing will ever happen.

Furthermore, even if the GFW falls, it is not clear that this will imply the end of the dictatorship: Will the keyword attacks really help to destroy the firewall?.

Hitting the block button has, of course, no cost.

The cost of blocking Stack Overflow lies of course in the loss of information, and slower technological development, see also: Why attack websites with censored keywords? 用审查词攻击网站有什么用呢？

Remember that it is not possible for the Chinese government to block only certain pages of HTTPS websites due to encryption: either the entire IP / domain name is blocked, or nothing.

The 2019 996.ICU event however brought to my attention that Chinese (usually WebKit-based) browsers are already censoring HTTPS websites selectively of course, see e.g.: https://github.com/996browser/996.BROWSER/tree/77f28a36a862e3cc4d238dc47c19872156096bc4

But I doubt developers use those browsers, right? The only way would be for China to forbid foreign browsers entirely.

2.4.3.1. Is Stack Overflow blocked in China?

How can you be that certain that your children won’t have dissident ideas and be punished unfairly for them?

Intolerance is a risky way to live. Everyone is part of one minority in one way. If all minorities were oppressed, everyone would be oppressed.

Dictatorships crush minorities much more than democracies.

Do think the majority of the Chinese people would vote to put 50 year old Falun Gong 法輪大法 meditating aunties in jail, if the CCP hadn’t made a huge propaganda campaign and used an iron fist?

Are the Chinese really that selfish to vote for this oppression, even as the free media would show videos of meditating old ladies in jail on national television? Ciro Santilli 三西猴 does not believe this.

Minorities are put in jail because the CCP fears them. Dictatorships can only survive if there is zero difference in opinion in the population.

The famous First they came …​ text comes to mind in which the priest Martin Niemöller regrets not having supported the rights of his opponents that were unfairly treated by the Nazi Government:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak for me.

See also: Intolerance (1916) film

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXRG7yiqR3I Passage of Kennedy’s discourse that contains the quote "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable".

But isn’t it better to be annoyed than having war, being poor or put into jail unfairly?

If the truth is too much for you to bear, worry not, you can use either:

• this cool browser extension to clean up Stack Overflow: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/32236-stackoverflow净化器 "StackOverflow净化器"

  • GitHub user with the same username: https://github.com/EternalPhane

  • https://web.archive.org/web/20181211094818/https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/32236-stackoverflow%E5%87%80%E5%8C%96%E5%99%A8

  • https://web.archive.org/web/20181211094917/https://greasyfork.org/en/forum/discussion/47981

• a custom ad terminator expression shown at: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues/87 stackoverflow.com##a[href="/users/895245/ciro-santilli-%e6%96%b0%e7%96%86%e6%94%b9%e9%80%a0%e4%b8%ad%e5%bf%83%e6%b3%95%e8%bd%ae%e5%8a%9f%e5%85%ad%e5%9b%9b%e4%ba%8b%e4%bb%b6"]

Installing any of those immediately give you 10 Sesame Points, 习万岁,

See also: Does Ciro Santilli want to harm the Chinese programmers? 三西猴想要伤害中国程序员吗？.

Everyone is "brainwashed" by their environment.

I don’t doubt that you know more about China than me.

But if you are Chinese, also consider that you have been brainwashed by the commies, so likely much more than me since you live in a dictatorship.

So, instead of saying that, why don’t you just actually prove your point by teaching me something interesting about China that I don’t know about? I love learning new things.

But please, link to reference material instead of just saying it, it will be much more convincing.

See also: Western democracies are not perfect 西方的民主有很多缺点.

This is a common strategy, but the West is not as evil as they say:

Once upon a time, there was a farmer with a farm.

One day, the animals on the farm started feeling a bit trapped, and started bumping against the fence to get out.

The farmer, however, was smart, and told the animals:

Careful! There is a wolf outside! If you go out, you will be eaten by the wolf!

The animals, were not that smart, and listened to the farmer, they were afraid!

From time to time, one of the animals would disappear (and without their knowledge, reappear on the farmer’s dinner table).

But the farmer kept giving the animals delicious food without them making any effort, so they decided to believe the farmer’s explanation that animal had escaped and been eaten by the wolf.

Maybe, there was actually a wolf outside. But if they had escaped, only some of the animals would have been eaten by that wolf.

But by staying on the farm, all the animals were, sooner or later, eaten one by one.

TODO source.

Duplicate pool: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Aevil-west+

Ciro Santilli’s Ciro Santilli’s wife 三西猴的老婆, her mother, and paternal cousin, believe that Ciro’s wife is the descendant of the brother of a recent Qing emperor through her father’s family.

Although they have not been able to produce concrete evidence, which could be explained by the endless political turmoils in 20th century China, Ciro decided that this would be a good bet to take, and married her anyway.

If anyone is able to provide further evidence of this relationship, please, please, please get in touch.

One thing to keep in mind is that the Qing dynasty, like the previous Ming dynasty, used Generation names (行辈), such that the first character of the given name is the same for all people in a given generation (counted directly from the first emperor that adopted the rule.

For example, this wiki page contains a good family tree of the most important Qing people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_tree_of_Chinese_monarchs_(late)#Qing_dynasty and we see that many important people around 1861 were Zai 載something, e.g.: Zaichun, Zaiyi, Zaitian, etc.

The last emperor was Puyi, so Pu is the last well known mark. But there were others planned that never got used for after him as shown at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisin_Gioro#List_of_generation_prefixes.

• Zai (before Pu)

• Pu (wife’s great-grandfather)

• Yu (wife’s grandfather)

• Heng (wife’s father)

• Qi (wife)

• Dao (wife’s children). At least one thing is decided from this: Ciro’s children Chinese names will all be Ai Dao Something.

The family tree that Ciro has reconstructed orally from his mother-in-law is:

• Ciro’s wife:

  • Father: Ai Dayi (艾大义) born: 1932 in Shenyang

    • Father: Ai Xikang (艾锡康) So why did he not use Yu?

      • Father: Ai Pushan (艾溥?), so the Pu character is presumed from the generation name, to be the same generation as Puyi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaitao has a Pushen (溥伸), but he died at 13 years old in 1928, so its not the one.

      • Younger brother 2: Ai Xiyuan (艾锡?) Professor at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_University_(China) Apparently had no Children.

      • Younger brother 3: Ai Xicong (艾锡?) Graduated in law in Japan in Waseda University Was the top official of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Police_Agency_(Japan) in China when it was occupied by Japan (警察廳长) Passed first by Taiwan.

      • Younger brother 4: Ai Xiying (艾锡?)

      • Younger brother 5: Ai Xifu (艾锡?) Together with Ai Xiying, they were went to the Republic of China Military Academy and were high ranking officials in the war against the Japanese in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War (八年抗战). Later was a congressman in Taiwan.

  • Younger sister: Ai Shiping (艾世？)

  • Older brother: Zhao Yingjie. Studied law in Japan also at Waseda University.

Many of them have had different names in different places/countries, notably many used the name 肇(Zhao) rather than 艾.

Further anecdotal indicators follow.

Ciro’s wife and family are clearly of the Manchu ethnicity just by looking at them, and they originally lived in the North East of China

His wife’s family name is the very unusual 艾, pronounced "ai4", which she claims is a reference to the 愛(also pronounced ai4) in 愛新覺羅, which is the name of the Manchu ruling clan of the Qing dynasty.

Ciro’s father-in-law, who he barely met, was very old when he had his daughter, and passed away before Ciro could talk a lot with him, which is consistent with the claims that he spent several years in jail during Mao’s purges, see also: Ciro Santilli’s wife 三西猴的老婆.

Bibliography:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_the_House_of_Aisin_Gioro

• https://www.zhihu.com/question/34813921 现在清朝皇室的后代现状如何？ What is the current status of the descendants of the Qing royal family?

• https://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-descendants-of-the-Qing-Dynasty-left-currently

• https://arxiv.org/pdf/1412.6274.pdf "Y Chromosome of Aisin Gioro, the Imperial House of Qing Dynasty" unknown year. Unfortunately Ciro’s wife does not have an Y chromosome like her father. This does however mention the book used as a genealogy reference: https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/愛新覺羅宗譜.html?id=Pj4EAQAAIAAJ 愛新覺羅宗譜 On Douban: https://book.douban.com/subject/4162448/ gives ISBN 9787507713428 On Amazon unavailable: https://www.amazon.com/dp/7507713423

Ciro Santilli 三西猴 tries to justify why he think China would be better with democracy, but I know that ultimately all of this is useless.

Everyone’s opinions are all determined genetically and by bring-up, and there is nothing he can do to change yours, or you change his.

From that point of view, all of this is just a cold blooded political game, in which Ciro tries to force the CCP to take down the Firewall: Why attack websites with censored keywords? 用审查词攻击网站有什么用呢？.

Ciro never gets mad about China, even if your opinion is contrary to his, and therefore wrong.

Using the reply policy is one of the reasons why Ciro never gets mad.

Ciro also has doubts about the efficiency of certain things I do as expressed throughout this FAQ, e.g. Embargoes make dictatorships stronger 禁运使独裁更强大.

Also, Ciro have never said that anyone else is wrong.

In the end, he just end up thinking about new replies to things people say to him, and add them to this FAQ so that future replies will be faster to copy paste. See also: Doesn’t Ciro Santilli have anything better to do than pissing off China?.

The real goal of any online discussion, is not to convince people, but rather to determine who is an ally and who is not, and get those allies together to defeat the commies.

Not consciously, Ciro thinks would likely support them even if I didn’t have family ties to Falun Gong 法輪大法.

Likely he wouldn’t have started this campaign if he didn’t know them of course.

But of course, this is impossible to answer objectively.

Wouldn’t you be rather upset if your mother in law were put into jail unfairly for 15 days?

But don’t you think that 70 million people (6% of the total population in 2000!) getting completely squashed by the Party illustrates extremely well the dangers of the dictatorship?

With that in mind, Ciro tries his best to give FLG only the right level of exposure I think it deserves relative to other events, according to these guidelines: How do you choose keywords for the keyword attack?.

If more recent events of mass human rights violations happen, especially affecting in the order of tens of million people, I will probably rank higher than Falun Gong, this was the case for Xinjiang in 2019 for example, even though it only affected a measly million.

The last straw that led Ciro Santilli 三西猴 to start the What is a screen name keyword attack? on [stack-overflow] was when on March 2015 his girlfriend’s mother was arbitrarily kept 15 days in jail for doing Falun Gong 法輪大法. He posted about this at:

• https://twitter.com/cirosantilli/status/579270450984984576

• https://www.facebook.com/cirosantilli/posts/952661734753174

I then continued because I hate political censorship, and because I love China.

2.8.4.1. Ciro Santilli’s post when his mother-in-law was put into jail

2.8.4.2. Further details about Ciro Santilli’s mother-in-law’s persecution

Ciro Santilli can understand that.

It must feel good to have absolute truth in the Cult of Xi, and let the black police get rid of weirdos for you.

But when the dictatorship turns again you our your family, will you fight, or will you just let them do whatever they want because they can never be wrong? See also: Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities.

And when your son betrays you or sacrifices himself for the Dictator, will you just smile and accept it?

See: Seventeen Moments of Spring (1973)

2.9.1.1. Seventeen Moments of Spring (1973)

2.9.1.2. Most Chinese people like their dictatorship 中国大众支持他们的独裁

That is definitely true.

Nothing is perfect in this world.

I just think that they are way better than dictatorships.

As Churchill once brilliantly put it:

Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.

However, this is all obviously subjective, and believing that dictatorship is a better form of government is also a valid belief.

If you find an event on a Western democracy that you would like to highlight, send a pull request. We will not however include events that are not currently censored. Every country did fucked-up things in the past, the question is if they currently allow discussion about it or not.

This "Western censorship string" was posted automatically by a bot during r/China purge day:

North Dakota Access Pipeline Protests 北达科他州接入管道抗议
Ferguson Riots 弗格森暴动
2017 St. Louis protests2017 年圣路易斯抗议活动
Nuclear testing at Bikini Atoll 比基尼环礁的核试验
Unite the Right rally 团结右集会
Charlotte riots 夏洛特暴动
Attack on the Sui-ho Dam 袭击穗河水坝
Milwaukee riots 密尔沃基骚乱
Shooting of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile 奥尔顿·斯特林和菲兰多·卡斯蒂利亚的射击
Occupation of the Malheur NationalWildlife Refuge Malheur国家野生动物保护区的占领
death of Freddie Gray 弗雷迪·格雷的死
Shooting of Michael Brown迈克尔·布朗的拍摄
death of Eric Garner, Oakland California 奥克兰奥克兰市埃里克·加纳（Eric Garner）逝世
Operation Condor 神鹰行动
Occupy WallStreet 占领华尔街
My Lai Massacre 我的大屠杀
St. Petersburg, Florida 佛罗里达州圣彼得堡
Kandahar Massacre 坎大哈屠杀
1992Washington Heights riots 1992年华盛顿高地暴动
No Gun Ri Massacre 无枪杀案
L.A. Rodney King riots 洛杉矶罗德尼·金暴动
1979 Greensboro Massacre 1979年格林斯伯勒大屠杀
Vietnam War 越南战争
Kent State shootings肯特州枪击案
Bombing of Tokyo 轰炸东京
San Francisco Police Department Park Station bombing 旧金山警察局公园站爆炸案
Assassination of MartinLuther King, Jr. 小马丁·路德·金遭暗杀。
Long Hot Summer of 1967 1967年炎热的夏天
Bagram 巴格拉姆
Selma to Montgomery marches 塞尔玛到蒙哥马利游行
Highway of Death 死亡之路
Ax Handle Saturday 星期六斧头
Battle of Evarts 埃瓦茨战役
Battle ofBlair Mountain 布莱尔山战役
McCarthyism 麦卡锡主义
Red Summer 红色夏天
Rock Springs massacre 岩泉大屠杀
Pottawatomie massacre 盆大屠杀
Jeju uprising 济州起义
Colfaxmassacre 科尔法克斯大屠杀
Reading Railroad massacre 阅读铁路大屠杀
Rock Springs massacre 岩泉大屠杀
Bay viewMassacre 湾景大屠杀
Lattimer massacre 拉蒂默大屠杀
Ludlow massacre 拉德洛屠杀
Everett massacre 埃弗里特屠杀Centralia Massacre 中部大屠杀
Ocoee massacre Ocoee大屠杀
Herrin Massacre 赫林大屠杀
Redwood Massacre红木大屠杀
Columbine Mine Massacre 哥伦拜恩矿难
Guantanamo Bay 关塔那摩湾
extraordinary rendition 非凡的演绎
Abu Ghraib torture and prison abuse 阿布格莱布的酷刑和监狱虐待
Henry Kissinger 亨利·基辛格

See also:

• Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? 言论自由让中国比较富有

• Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed 三西猴对中国成见很深，无法改变

• Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government!

2.10.1.1. Western democracies have invaded other countries and crushed separatism

2.10.1.2. Western democracies also censor subjects such as child porn and hate speech

2.10.1.3. Snowden 斯诺登

2.10.1.4. Fake news

2.10.1.5. Bad things have been done in the name of freedom

Russia is clearly the number 2 Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a dictatorship? 中国不是独裁！ in the world by population / GDP and the #1 nuclear arsenal, so here we go.

Ciro has always been curious about how Russia can be both oppressive and a appear democratic, unlike China which doesn’t even try to pretend. This is what he gathers:

• the government controls all major media. If any media says bad things against them, the government finds pretexts to create lawsuits or increase taxes against such companies. Therefore all people end up thinking that the government is good.

• just like China, they emphasize the threat of the foreign countries, especially the US, as a justification for having an oppressive power.

• the government puts pressure on any significant opposition candidate. One technique is to find some reason to put them in jail for two months, which by Russian law forbids them from participating in further elections. Only candidates that don’t really stand a chance are left as a fake opposition. But if you reach some prominence, you start taking the same risks as politicians, although you are more likely to face more brutal illegal gangster violence threats as you are less visible

See also: Communist Youth League of China 中国共产主义青年团

While we are at it, some interesting news:

• 2018-04 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43752337 "Russia to block Telegram app over encryption"

• 2017 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40635267 Russia Jehovah’s Witnesses banned after they lose appeal

• 2017 https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/2085395/its-now-illegal-russia-share-image-putin-possibly-gay

• 2016 https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/kzgkv3/russians-now-need-a-passport-to-watch-pornhub

• 1995 Vladislav Listyev

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislav_Listyev

  • https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Листьев,_Владислав_Николаевич

Poisonings: Russia apparently has a long list of poisoning political enemies: https://nypost.com/2018/06/23/inside-russias-long-history-of-poisoning-political-enemies/

• Poison laboratory of the Soviet secret services (Токсикологическая лаборатория НКВД — НКГБ — МГБ)

• The poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal Серге́й Ви́кторович Скрипáль (2018-03-04)

• 2012 Alexander Perepilichny Перепеличный, Александр Юрьевич https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Perepilichny | https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Перепеличный,_Александр_Юрьевич

• 2004 Anna Politkovskaya Анна Политковская https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Politkovskaya | https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Политковская,_Анна_Степановна

• 2004 Viktor Yushchenko Ющенко, Виктор Андреевич https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko | https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ющенко,_Виктор_Андреевич

• The murder of Alexander Litvinenko Литвиненко, Александр Вальтерович (2006)

The Russians have very different style to the Chinese, who are much more subtle, and just put people in jail or handicap them in several ways without killing them.

Other political murders or attempts:

• 2015 Boris Nemtsov Немцов, Борис Ефимович https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Nemtsov | https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Немцов,_Борис_Ефимович

Some other interesting political suppression lists:

• list of journalists killed in Russia (Список журналистов, убитых в России).

• List of Soviet and Russian assassinations

• 2017 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/03/23/here-are-ten-critics-of-vladimir-putin-who-died-violently-or-in-suspicious-ways/ "Here are 10 critics of Vladimir Putin who died violently or in suspicious ways"

Other random stuff:

• Seventeen Moments of Spring (1973)

2.10.2.1. Putin Путин 普京 (1999-2008, 2012-∞)

2.10.2.2. Putin opposition

2.10.2.3. Stalin 斯大林 (1922-1952)

• https://www.rferl.org/ Radio Free Europe: USA funded sister media of Radio Free Asia (RFA) 自由亚洲电台: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Liberty

• https://meduza.io/en

Sometimes people say Ciro Santilli is naive.

Politicians are the same all over the world.

Some are good, some are evil.

China’s problem is not its politicians.

It’s the current shitty political organization, which allows/convinces those politicians to do really bad things: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? 言论自由让中国比较富有, Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war?.

The term evil does not make sense unless you are religious.

The best definition of evil is a psychopath with zero empathy for anyone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy although this can be better characterized as a disease or extreme personality trait.

The huge majority of those politicians are just regular dudes with a knack for politics but brought up in a fucked up political situation.

Just like you, Ciro Santilli and other politicians in any country.

See also: Chinese politicians 中国政治家.

Figure 26. Photoshopped Xi Jinping 习近平 (2012-∞) with raised fist with Nazi uniform and flag on the background. Source.

Figure 27. Likely original or similar image of Xi Jinping 习近平 (2012-∞) with raised fist as he took oath when coming into or renewing office. Source.

Figure 28. German’s 1938-1945 war flag called the "War Ensign of Germany" in English or "Reichskriegsflagge" in German. Source.

Figure 29. Hitler has of course a few raised fists on Google Images, but they tend to be more aggressive, and less compatible with Xi’s apathic poker face. Source.

Figure 30. Photoshopped cover of Mein Kampf with Xi’s face on top of Hitler’s and other modifications such as Mian instead of Mein, likely the same 面 (mian4, face) as the Chinese character at the bottom right. Source.

Figure 31. Original cover of Mein Kampf. Source.

Figure 32. Photoshopped photo of Hitler giving the Nazi salute from a car with Himmler on the background with Xi’s face on top of Hitler’s. Source.

Figure 33. Original photo of Hitler giving the Nazi salute from a car with Himmler on the background. Source.

Figure 34. Chinazi flag by Hong Kong protesters. Seen on streets. Source.

Figure 35. Xi Jinping basically Nazi saluting kids from Young Pioneers of China 中国少年先锋队 in Beijing, June 1, 2015. Source (biased).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD53MEbLDIE laowhy86 video "Can We Compare China to Nazi Germany?" published on 2020-04-29. Good side-by-side video comparisons. Says that China is mor like Nazi than Russia 俄罗斯, but Ciro disagrees, all three are <is-chinese-politician-x-evil,evil dictatorships>>.

If you don’t know English well enough, that’s fine though, go for Chinese.

But if you do, use English.

I am not going to learn Chinese because of your message.

It is more productive for you to write in English, so that the rest of the West can also learn something new.

Especially since it seems that most Chinese already know what you are talking about.

See also: Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? 三西猴会说中文吗？.

2.13.1.1. I am going to use a bunch of Chinese slangs because it makes me feel smart 我知道网络语言，我很聪明

2.13.1.2. I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in cirosantilli/china-dictatorship

2.13.1.3. I am going to write a huge text to prove my point

Not as of 2019, he has only visited once in 2012, and it was amazingly beautiful.

But he doesn’t think it is a good idea for him to do that now, in case his Visa got accepted, because he is not interested in learning about the Chinese jail system! :-)

He knows that if you don’t mind contributing to making WW3 deadlier and shut up and obey the CCP, China is already a fine place to live as much as any other developing country.

2.13.2.1. Would you like to live in China?

2.13.2.2. Would Ciro Santilli be able to visit China before the CCP ends?

See: https://cirosantilli.com/#ciro-santilli

And it does not matter: Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics 外国人不应该干预中国政治.

But his wife is.

As of 2019, oral enough for daily things, but not understand most natural casual dinner conversation or watch TV series, because they go too quickly into vocabulary subject areas that I don’t know.

When it matters, and with some patience, Can can make himself understood though with some analogies (archive) and a dictionary.

From the HSK vocabulary list, he estimates that ihe is definitely HSK 3, but not quite HSK 4. This would likely equate A2 / B1 in the European system.

Phonetics wise, Ciro can’t distinguish or produce a few sounds, notably -ing vs -in and my off-tone rate is high, but it tends to not matter at all compared to the lack of vocabulary.

Ciro reads with Perapera, write with a mixture of Pleco, Google translate and Googling to see if Chinese actually say the sentences that way.

He hasn’t tried to learn characters because too much effort, but he did learn the most common ones without trying.

Ciro really wishes he could learn more, but he has other more important endeavors at the moment :-(

He initially learnt from book that come with audio recordings in the first 6-months to 1 year in 2010, but that got impossibly boring afterward, so he later moved to just basically talking as much as possible non-important things to his wife in Chinese, and whenever he reaches one that I don’t know that seems useful, he Plecos it up or just 怎么说 and then Pleco.

Spoken Chinese is in Ciro’s opinion a relatively easy language to learn from scratch, because word formation is so often logical:, e.g.:

• volcano = fire + mountain: 火山(huo shan)

• train = fire + car: 火车 (huo che), a reference to old steam locomotives

and there is no useless crap like verb conjugation, Grammatical gender, plural variants, capitalization, etc.

Ciro loves this language.

Please just get rid of the Chinese characters and move to pinyin like the Korean and Vietnamese did, this will make your culture much easier to export.

Yes Chinese characters are beautiful, yes, maybe you can read faster, and yes, vertical text (纵排) is awesome (but is it more efficient? Zhihu, Quora).

But they just take too much time for any sane adult to learn, it’s harder than C++!

2.13.4.1. Chinese characters are insane

Why am I a radical?

Do you consider me a radical because it is unthinkable that China is not perfect?

Or just because I’m trying to take down, some more websites that your dictatorship still does not dislike enough to block: [china-is-fine-as-it-is-stop-making-it-worse]?

Don’t you think that it is much more radical to be put in jail for your beliefs and silenced if you disagree with anything the government says?

Why am I a radical when I speak my point of view, while you are not when you speak yours?

I don’t think either China or West is perfect: [western-media-has-exaggerated-reports-on-flg-for-propaganda-reasons].

I’m just listing arguments why I think democracy is better, e.g.: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? 言论自由让中国比较富有, Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war?.

I don’t consider myself a radical because of:

• Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed 三西猴对中国成见很深，无法改变

• Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government!

I never get mad. Only a slightly sad or annoyed sometimes.

But maybe no radical ever considers himself radical? Hmmm…​

Or maybe: The Dark Knight - Some Men Just Want To Watch The World Burn?

SJW: there is a seed of SJW in me.

One major difference between me and the stereotypical SJW is that I never engage in lengthy discussions.

I limit myself to listening as much as I can to learn new arguments.

So the rationale of my actions is not to convince anyone, but rather:

• increase the monetary cost of censorship by binding politics to tech

• group up like-minded people who don’t like censorship

See also: Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed 三西猴对中国成见很深，无法改变

On the contrary. China has his favorite:

• food

• language

• The best Chinese traditional instrumental music albums 中国传统器乐音乐

• history

• nature

• culture, notably:

  • intense respect for older people. Whenever Ciro was with his mother-in-law and asked for help from young Chinese people, they were extremely nice.

    It is hard to understand how the same people have not managed to speak up when 70 million old ladies were put into jail when Falun Gong was banned. Only the extreme fear of also going to jail could explain it. Living in China is living in constant fear if you can think for yourself.

  • enormous importance given to education. One must not forget however: grades are useless, and all that matters is how much you improve society

And because of that: [would-you-like-to-live-in-china].

As Bjarne said:

There are only two kinds of programming languages: those people always bitch about and those nobody uses

Ciro only focus here on negative things to provide content that will activate the Great Firewall.

持华反党
爱国恨党

2.13.7.1. Chinese traditional painting 中国传统绘画

2.13.7.2. Why does Ciro Santilli love China so much?

See also:

• Does Ciro Santilli support FLG just because his wife and mother-in-law do it?

• Ciro Santilli’s claim to the Qing Dynasty throne 三西猴清朝皇帝觊觎

• Does Ciro Santilli want to harm the Chinese programmers? 三西猴想要伤害中国程序员吗？

2.13.8.1. Ciro Santilli is doing his China freedom campaign to become famous

2.13.8.2. Ciro Santilli is doing his China freedom campaign because it makes him feel important

2.13.8.3. Ciro Santilli is doing his China freedom campaign to vent off his anger

2.13.8.4. Is Ciro Santilli’s china-dictatorship campaign funded or otherwise supported by some organization?

Not with his real name attached to it, see also:

• [what-should-pro-democracy-chinese-living-in-china-do-about-the-dictatorship]

• Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics 外国人不应该干预中国政治

2.13.9.1. Does your employer support this?

In 1989, besides Tiananmen Square Protests of 1989 六四事件 and Ciro Santilli 三西猴's birth, a beautiful thing called the World Wide Web was invented!

The Internet gives everyone the magic power of writing something, and having million people read it for free!

This is how much time Ciro spends on this project to give you an idea:

• every week or two, someone sends me a message, he reply with "read the FAQ", and usually update

• Ciro https://www.reddit.com/r/China amongst many other programming subs, and all major bad news show up there. See also: What are the best sources of anti-CCP news?

• when something bad enough comes up, Ciro go to https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/sensitive-words-series/ and update his keyword attack. He’s only been updating it on Stack Overflow and GitHub these days.

Then Ciro just contributes to programming websites exactly as he would if he weren’t making this campaign, and voila.

Edit: to be fair, the end of 2019 and start of 2020 was such as hot year with [2019-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests] and Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus 2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查 that Ciro might have spent a tiny little bit more.

But Ciro did it only when his brain was too tired of technical stuff and unable to do more, or as a brain warm up routine in the morning.

Telling the CCP to fuck off is surprisingly relaxing, you should try it some time too. It uses a different part of your brain other than the programming one. It is, one could say, an art form.

Figure 45. One baby Hitler or 5 Million Jews trolley problem.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TcoBv6ibh8M V for Vendetta (2005) "What you think will happen" scene.

Basically same discussion as: Would it be right to use violence to overthrow the CCP? but with the tables turned.

See also: The Chinese masses are still uneducated, and not fit for free speech and democracy 中国大众愚昧，不能好好选领导

Figure 46. Chrysanthemium Xi Jinping 菊花习近平 (2015) has been used by Ciro Santilli as a profile picture censored image attack

https://www.reddit.com/r/China, see also: Reddit subs with lots of anti-commie info

Catches all the important news

A large part of the posts has controversial material.

Has some noise of course as well, but less than other media I find.

Highly worth your feed.

Reddit was banned in China in August 2018: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/965k4c/reddit_banned_in_china/

Tencent will invest 150 million on Reddit in 2019: https://gizmodo.com/reddit-banned-in-china-is-reportedly-set-to-land-150-1832375439 See also: Biased media 偏见媒体.

2.18.1.1. Reddit subs with lots of anti-commie info

• List of blacklisted keywords in China

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_blacklisted_keywords_in_China

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/中华人民共和国网络审查

• https://github.com/jasonqng/chinese-keywords

• Complete GFW Rulebook for Wikipedia v3.0

• https://chinadigitaltimes.net This is was an amazing source, extremely comprehensive and up-to-date, but the series was stopped in September 2018:

  • https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/word-of-the-week/?view=all word of the week

  • https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/directives-from-the-ministry-of-truth/?view=all censorship directive reports

    • https://chinadigitaltimes.net/chinese/category/有关部门/真理部指令/?view=all chinese version

  • https://chinadigitaltimes.net/space/Main_Page a wiki version of the censored word lists, the ,"Grass-mud horse index" (cao3n2ma3 草泥马), with a censored term of the week section.

  • https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/sensitive-words-series/?view=all sensitive words list

  • Fun 2015 ebook: https://github.com/cirosantilli/decoding-chinese-internet-pdf-download

See also:

• [censorship-monitoring]

• [tiananmen-square-protests-keywords]

I haven’t counted, but the limit for Stack Overflow is quite low, and I’m always almost at the maximum, which is about "Ciro Santilli" + 3 3-4 Chinese character events with a separator.

These are some of my prioritization guidelines:

• recent cases receive a large prime over the raw death toll, because older cases can always be attributed to other people.

  E.g., I’ve heard there is even some opening towards acknowledging the Great Famine, thus 烏坎事件 (and others from my previous profile names)

• words must refer to a precise event, and must be clearly summarizable in very few chars, for increased impact, and profile name length limitations.

  E.g. "High corruption rates, high pollution", although very serious, feel too generic.

• events that relate directly to freedom of speech receive a prime, since they can only happen in China and very few other countries.

  E.g.: Falun Gong 法輪大法, Tiananmen Square Protests of 1989 六四事件.

  Non e.g.: corruption and pollution. Those are hard to quantify, and there is always an immediate reply: china GDP per capita is low, same happens in India, Brazil, etc.

  Freedom of speech however, is immediately verifiable (e.g. "my Weibo was taken down"), and undeniably caused by the current central government.

• the more people affected, and the more deeply they have been affected, the more important obviously

I am currently trying to maintain in my Stack Overflow Location a ranking of events in a single string, so that it can be easily copy pasted around. The location appears on every page if you hover over my account name, so it is likely in the HTML at least.

If you think that this list can be improved, please open an issue explaining how and why.

Query to find them: https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/312860/chinese-dissidents-by-keyword-aboutme-or-displayname

Notable ones only here (high rep or innovative criticism):

• "GNUSupporter 8964民主女神 地下教會"

  • Real name: Vincent Tam from social media links.

  • https://math.stackexchange.com/users/290189/gnusupporter-8964民主女神-地下教會#

  • https://web.archive.org/web/20180924203410/https://math.stackexchange.com/users/290189/gnusupporter-8964%E6%B0%91%E4%B8%BB%E5%A5%B3%E7%A5%9E-%E5%9C%B0%E4%B8%8B%E6%95%99%E6%9C%83

  • Keyword attack inspired by me

• Yu Hao

  • https://stackoverflow.com/users/1009479/yu-hao

  • https://archive.is/76FCb

  • "GFW (Great Firewall of China) is one of the most notorious inventions in the history of Internet. Anyone working for it should be ashamed."

• iBug

  • https://stackoverflow.com/users/5958455/ibug

  • iBug https://web.archive.org/web/20190507140910/https://stackoverflow.com/users/5958455/ibug

  • "The Communist Party of China is a state criminal that is continuously committing state crime to ordinary Chinese citizens!" followed by an event list.

• gotqn

  • "Free Tibet From China Domination"

  • https://stackoverflow.com/users/1080354/gotqn

  • https://web.archive.org/web/20190821105901/https://stackoverflow.com/users/1080354/gotqn

• Scott 混合理论

  https://stackoverflow.com/users/1230329/scott-混合理论

  The same message as Yu Hao, I wonder if it is an external thing or direct copy of Yu, but no Google hits besides them.

• Terry Wang

  • https://stackoverflow.com/users/1801697/terry-wang

  • https://archive.is/V0aSK

  • Lego recreation of Tankman on the profile picture: Rough Lego model of the Tank Man scene. Source.

Users who had GFW references but removed it:

• https://stackoverflow.com/users/4594532/gnimuc-key

  • https://web.archive.org/web/20170331144256/https://stackoverflow.com/users/4594532/gnimuc

• https://stackoverflow.com/users/651907/jclin

  • https://web.archive.org/web/20160516065151/https://stackoverflow.com/users/651907/jclin

Misc interesting stuff:

• <location>火车站酒店小姐 (about 20 accounts with that pattern)

  • https://stackoverflow.com/users/7040504/莆田火车站酒店小姐

  • https://web.archive.org/web/20190428090348/https://stackoverflow.com/users/7040504/%E8%8E%86%E7%94%B0%E7%81%AB%E8%BD%A6%E7%AB%99%E9%85%92%E5%BA%97%E5%B0%8F%E5%A7%90

  • Interesting list of prostitution spam/sockpuppets? All have the exact same profile information.

  • Hitting query due to "审查", but the usage is unrelated to the Firewall.

Anti-dissident users:

• https://stackoverflow.com/users/815408

  • https://web.archive.org/web/20170602054631/https://stackoverflow.com/users/815408/%E8%AF%B7%E5%B0%81%E6%8E%89ciro-santilli-%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E5%85%B1%E4%BA%A7%E5%85%9A%E4%B8%87%E5%B2%81

  • username: "请封掉Ciro Santilli 中国共产党万岁"

  • profile: "中国万岁！ 中国共产党万岁！ 法轮功，民运，台独在中国共产党的铁蹄下不过是螳臂当车！"

• https://stackoverflow.com/users/9393161

  • https://web.archive.org/save/https://stackoverflow.com/users/9393161/ciro-santilli-%E7%9A%84%E9%80%A0%E8%B0%A3%E6%98%AF%E5%8F%AF%E8%80%BB%E8%A1%8C%E4%B8%BA

  • username: "Ciro Santilli 的造谣是可耻行为" https://web.archive.org/save/https://stackoverflow.com/users/9393161/ciro-santilli-%E7%9A%84%E9%80%A0%E8%B0%A3%E6%98%AF%E5%8F%AF%E8%80%BB%E8%A1%8C%E4%B8%BA

• https://stackoverflow.com/users/8454187

  • username: "Snowden Assange Wounded Knee"

  • profile: "燃(ri)烧(si)您(ni)的(de)梦(ma)，Ciro Santilli. StackOverflow上的一个用户. The Oliver Stone Experience"

  • explanation:

    • "燃烧您的梦": http://www.nq6.com/dj/1674.html

    • "Wounded Knee": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre

Query to find them: https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/312863/mentioned-ciro-santilli-on-aboutme-or-displayname

2.18.5.1. Notepad++

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan

• https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/中华民国

If you are interested in Taiwan, one important programmer forum is: PTT Bulletin Board System 批踢踢實業坊.

Some interesting links:

• https://youtube.com/watch?v=6aZkM_ZLvjE?t=50 (zh) "【這就是科學｜柯文哲】EP3／從癌症治療看政治！除惡務盡→除惡「勿」盡？「與敵共存」才是生存之道！", 柯文哲, 2019-06-26. Ko Wen-je, the mayor of Taipei 台北 and a professor in medicine, applies the concept of isolation and mutation in evolution to Taiwan and China

2.19.1.1. One China policy 一个中国

2.19.1.2. Taiwan #1 (2915)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps

In 2017 - 2018, details of Uyghur internment camps are emerging.

• 2019-12: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEkliuqQo-g "A Secret Look Inside a Chinese Labor Program for Uighurs | Visual Investigations" by "The New York Times" published on Dec 30, 2019. Description: "China is relocating Uighurs and other Muslim minorities to urban areas as part of a contentious labor program. The Times obtained rare footage taken inside one."

• 2919-12: Muslim German Turkish Arsenal player Mesut Özil criticizes concentration camps on Twitter, and China stops broadcasting arsenal matches

  • https://twitter.com/MesutOzil1088/status/1205439723302469632 (archive)

  • https://news.sky.com/story/chinas-state-tv-will-no-longer-show-arsenal-match-after-mesut-ozil-remarks-11887171

• 2019-11: "What happened to me" manga depicting Uighur torture hits 2.5m views

  • https://wapipi.net/home/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/uy0830_en.pdf (archive)

  • https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/26/what-has-happened-to-me-manga-depicting-uighur-torture-hits-25m-views

• 2019-11 The Xinjiang Papers: leaked cables about Xinjiang internment camps policy, some reported by the New York Times and others by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, soure yet unknown. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_papers

  • 2020-02-18 https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/02/20/more-evidence-chinas-horrific-abuses-xinjiang the "Karakax list" leaked spreadsheet contains detailed information on 331 citizens Karakax County in Xinjiang and sheds further insight on why certain people have been persecuted

    • https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/china-war-terror-uproots-uighur-families-leaked-data-shows-200218052952415.html

  • https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html

  • https://www.icij.org/investigations/china-cables/exposed-chinas-operating-manuals-for-mass-internment-and-arrest-by-algorithm/

  • 2020-02: more leaks containing detailed records of several citizens: https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2020/02/asia/xinjiang-china-karakax-document-intl-hnk/

• 2019-09-22 Drone footage of Xinjiang prisoner transfer uploaded to YouTube. TODO confirm the location and that these are political prisoners rather than "normal criminals".

  • Upload sources

    • https://twitter.com/warcombatfear/status/1174031079432310785

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGYoeJ5U7cQ

  • News coverage

    • https://news.sky.com/story/chinas-detention-of-uighurs-video-of-blindfolded-and-shackled-prisoners-authentic-11815401 Drone footage, video sources:

  • Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/d78aog/chilling_video_of_chinese_police_transferring/

    

    Figure 53. Video still of 2019-10 drone footage of blindfolded Xinjiang prisoners being marched taken at time 00:30. Source.

• 2019-07-31 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/30/world/asia/china-xinjiang.html "Doubt Greets China’s Claim That Muslims Have Been Released From Camps"

• 2019-07-19 https://www.france24.com/en/20190712-37-countries-defend-china-over-xinjiang-un-letter "37 countries defend China over Xinjiang in UN letter"

  

  Figure 54. Rebel Pepper 变态辣椒 2019-07 cartoon showing Xi Jinping 习近平 (2012-∞) claiming to have won the global opinion on the Xinjiang re-education camps because all other dictatorships support him, including Islamic dictatorships. Source.

• 2019-07-04 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-48825090 "China Muslims: Xinjiang schools used to separate children from families"

• 2019-06-18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmId2ZP3h0c "Inside China’s 'thought transformation' camps - BBC News" China gives BBC "access" to a chosen show camp where everyone claims they are happy and willing to stay. They are however clearly adults being treated like children, taking courses and even having to sing and dance for the camera. 486s is also golden, when the CCP officer Zhang Zhisheng explains how they are just preventing future crime from happening. How can they be so stupid? How can they not see that this is not what the West wants to hear? Amazing dark-comedy like stuff.

• 2019-05-07 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/07/revealed-new-evidence-of-chinas-mission-to-raze-the-mosques-of-xinjiang

• 2019-05-07 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULaJVWOr4ko CNN does a few Xinjiang interviews and sends reporter to visit some of the concentration camps

• 2019-02-24 https://fortune.com/2019/02/21/thermo-fisher-xinjiang-china-uighurs/

• 2019-02-17 https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/2186547/china-data-leak-exposes-vast-hi-tech-surveillance-operation "China data leak exposes vast hi-tech surveillance operation in Xinjiang", leak by SenseNets Technology.

• https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/30/world/asia/china-xinjiang.html

• 2019-03 https://shahit.biz/eng/ database of Xinjiang victims, with precise names, location, date of birth and ID card number of victims and testimonies

• 2018-12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=dsd1NkCKaNg In full: 'I begged them to kill me' - ex-Xinjiang detainee Mihrigul Tursun gives testimony in the US. Observers however rightly brought up the Nayirah testimony.

• 2018-11 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45812419 Xinjiang legalizes 're-education' camps

• 2018-08 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-rights-un/u-n-says-it-has-credible-reports-that-china-holds-million-uighurs-in-secret-camps-idUSKBN1KV1SU

• 2018-07 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eak3WRtcdko Sairagul Sawytbai testifies to the existence of Chinese concentration camps in Xinjiang

• 2018-05 generic report https://jamestown.org/program/evidence-for-chinas-political-re-education-campaign-in-xinjiang/

• 2018-05 mapping internment camps with satellite imaging:

  • https://www.albawaba.com/news/mapping-china’s-internment-camps-its-ethnic-minorities-1136100

  • https://medium.com/@shawnwzhang/list-of-re-education-camps-in-xinjiang-新疆再教育集中营列表-99720372419c List of Re-education Camps in Xinjiang 新疆再教育集中营列表 Shawn Zhang https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/8mbhad/satellite_imagery_of_xinjiang_reeducation_camps/

• 2018-05 Omir Bekali’s account of Xinjiang education camps:

  • https://apnews.com/6e151296fb194f85ba69a8babd972e4b

  • https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/former-inmates-of-chinas-muslim-re-education-camps-tell-of-brainwashing-torture/2018/05/16/32b330e8-5850-11e8-8b92-45fdd7aaef3c_story.html?utm_term=.df8ea170b18f

  • https://uk.businessinsider.com/what-is-life-like-in-xinjiang-reeducation-camps-china-2018-5

• 2017-04 https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/camp-photo-04262019171258.html

  

  Figure 55. Image of prisionners wearing blue sitting down in Xinjiang concentration camp, with some prisionners identified to indicate that they are not criminals but rather detained purely for political reasons. Source.

2.19.2.1. Why don’t other Islamic countries speak up for the Uyghur persecution?

News source: https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/ Became larger than r/china during the [2019-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests].

The solution to Hong Kong’s problem is: give those people easy VISAs to leave China, with priority to the rich/educated ones. Give them free language courses on the country of arrival, and help them find jobs.

News without sections:

• 2020-05 National Security Law

  • 2020-05-29 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52842303 "UK could offer 'path to citizenship' for Hong Kong’s British passport holders"

  • 2020-05-24 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/24/beijing-to-impose-hong-kong-security-laws-without-delay

2.19.3.1. Hong Kong 97 SNES video game

2.19.3.2. 2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests

Figure 58. "Obéir c’est trahir. Désobéir c’est servir." flyer featuring the cross of Lorraine Source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photobombing

In online video games:

• 2020-04-08 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/nintendo-s-animal-crossing-becomes-new-hong-kong-protest-ground Animal Crossing

• Taiwan #1 (2915)

Explicitly forbidden in China by the law: Real username law (2015).

See also: What is a screen name keyword attack?.

2.20.1.1. Appropriation attack

2.20.1.2. Sport event live broadcast image attacks

Western governments must reciprocate unfair Chinese practices: https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/18508/why-dont-western-countries-penalize-chinese-companies-in-the-same-way-that-chin

Companies only care about money and have no long term view, the following must be imposed by governments on Western companies.

First of all, serious sanctions must be pot on companies that sell sensitive things to dictatorships:

• censorship or anti-privacy software

The most obvious thing is to go tit for tat on Censorship and completely ban all Chinese-sponsored social media accounts:

• Twitter

  • News

    • 2020-06-12 https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/information-operations-june-2020.html

    • 2020-06-12 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/12/twitter-deletes-170000-accounts-linked-to-china-influence-campaign "Twitter deletes 170,000 accounts linked to China influence campaign"

    • The Chinese government later contested this decision: https://variety.com/2020/digital/asia/china-victim-wants-twitter-to-delete-attackers-1234633860/

  • Accounts that should be deleted

    • https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews https://archive.is/7oshu

• https://www.youtube.com/user/ChinaViewTV/featured

• https://www.facebook.com/globaltimesnews/

  • 2020-04-07 https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/9397v8/chinas-been-flooding-facebook-with-shady-ads-blaming-trump-for-the-coronavirus-crisis "China’s Been Flooding Facebook With Shady Ads Blaming Trump for the Coronavirus Crisis"

Some websites have started marking such accounts, which is a great start, but a straight ban would be better:

• YouTube in 2018: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/2/16964190/youtube-state-funded-broadcasters

• Facebook in 2020: https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/04/facebook-adds-labels-identifying-state-controlled-media/

But then those websites would lose ad revenue, right? :-)

News about Chinese state media using Western social media:

• 2016 https://qz.com/671211/chinas-propaganda-outlets-have-leaped-the-top-of-facebook-even-though-it-banned-at-home/ "China’s propaganda news outlets are absolutely crushing it on Facebook"

Accounts that are not labelled as being from the Chinese government, but which support the CCP, must be investigated to determine if they are actually funded by the Chinese government.

Their websites should also be blocked, see: Chinese government media 中国政府媒体. This does have the downsides that:

• it would be harder to monitor what crazy shit the commies are doing

• those censorship mechanisms could be reused to block good websites by Western governments that are becoming Evil

But anything that pisses off the CCP is worth it, like there’s much we can learn from their bullshit.

Whenever China kicks out a western journalist who is in China and reports there, the Western country must do the same and kick out a Chinese journalists for a Chinese media.

Another upside is that this would also hugely bolster Censorship circumvention 翻墙 technologies, as every Chinese expat would need to buy a VPN.

• https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/18508/why-dont-western-countries-penalize-chinese-companies-in-the-same-way-that-chin

And the same must be done for cultural centers that report directly to the CCP such as Confucius institute 孔子学院 and CSSAs.

Western governments must identify raw material dependencies on China, and reduce them, while at the same time forbidding technology transfer to China. China has been trading cheap resources for technology, and we must stop that now.

Unfair Chinese commercial practices must be reciprocated. Chinese companies should be forced to open joint ventures to operate outside of China, which is a trick China uses to control profits and more easily steal IP from Western companies:

• https://www.msn.com/zh-hk/news/other/us-entrepreneurs-make-a-choice-rewards-of-doing-business-in-china-often-outweigh-risks-of-losing-trade-secrets/ar-BBSPC69 (archive)

• https://www.chinalawblog.com/2019/02/china-joint-ventures-the-long-version.html (archive)

Do not underestimate the CCP and its control over every Chinese companies and people. Every Chinese company and person is a potential spy.

This is true for all countries however, and we do not reproach China for its secret service, e.g. Snowden 斯诺登 used Dell as an NSA front-end.

The point is that the West should not underestimate this menace that comes from a Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a dictatorship? 中国不是独裁！.

Some Chinese spy stories:

• 2019-11: Wang Liqiang spy defection to Australia

  • https://www.smh.com.au/national/defecting-chinese-spy-offers-information-trove-to-australian-government-20191122-p53d1l.html

• 2019-11: Jerry Chun Shing Lee, naturalized American, convicted for being double agent while working at CIA after being in custody for 2 years

  • https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/former-cia-officer-sentenced-19-years-conspiring-chinese-spies-n1089341

2.20.2.1. The West must ban the Chinese telecommunications software and hardware

2.20.2.2. What should Western media do about China?

Western governments should prevent companies from complying to Chinese censorship requests, or at least impose fines and sanctions on them.

Citizens should boycott such companies and require them to be punished.

See also: [western-companies-that-sell-censorship-technology-to-dictatorships]

Some hell known companies and events:

• Bloomberg L.P.: https://theintercept.com/2020/02/18/mike-bloomberg-lp-nda-china/ "When Bloomberg News’s Reporting on China Was Challenged, Bloomberg Tried to Ruin Me for Speaking Out"

• 2019-12 Shutterstock implements censorship for searches from China https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/08/in-wake-of-shutterstocks-chinese-censorship-american-companies-need-to-relearn-american-values/

• LinkedIn

  • 2019-01-04 https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/2180620/linkedin-adhering-beijings-rules-censors-chinese-profile-page-us-based "LinkedIn reverses course after censoring Chinese profile page of US-based human rights activist Zhou Fengsuo", see also: Zhou Fengsuo 周锋锁

  • 2014-06-04 https://money.cnn.com/2014/06/04/technology/linkedin-china-censorship/ "LinkedIn draws fire for China censorship" mentions: "Some LinkedIn (LNKD) users have received emails from the company in recent days informing them that their posts will not be shown in mainland China."

• Apple

  • 2020-03-01 https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/01/china-roundup-apple-closes-app-store-loophole/ "China Roundup: Apple closes a 4-year-old App Store loophole"

  • 2020-02-25 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/25/apple-censorship-requests-china-shareholder-groups-proposal

  • 2019-04-12 https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/12/18305087/congress-apple-criticism-china-communist-tiananmen-pro-democracy "Lawmakers lash out at Apple for censoring a song about Tiananmen Square protests"

    

    Figure 66. Chinese flag with Apple characteristics. Source.

• JPMorgan

  • 2016-11 "Sons and Daughters" corruption hiring program for chidren of government officials: https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2016/11/17/jpmorgan-agrees-to-pay-264-million-fine-for-sons-and-daughters-hiring-program-in-china/#46746e305688

2.20.3.1. bandinchina GitHub repository

2.20.3.2. Entertainers who support the CCP

Figure 70. Cartoon depiction of the chengyu "Playing the qin to a cow" 《对牛弹琴》. Source.

Figure 71. XKCD 386 "Duty Calls" and the famous "Someone is wrong on the Internet" quote. It is a waste of time to be like that. Source.

Original creator of https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship: https://cirosantilli.com/

2.23.1.1. Ciro Santilli’s wife 三西猴的老婆

This is where Ciro Santilli 三西猴 started his What is a screen name keyword attack? originally in 2015 as explained at: [why-did-ciro-santilli-start-his-keyword-attack].

The current consensus says that keyword attacks are allowed:

• https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/286082/does-the-be-nice-policy-require-se-users-to-be-nice-to-people-who-are-not-se-u

• https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/267368/are-political-avatars-and-profiles-ok

• https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/299882/can-a-username-be-considered-spam

• https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/299882/can-a-username-be-considered-spam

• https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/349131/users-political-display-name-triggering-government-action-against-users-who-vie

The Chinese law doesn’t I’m afraid: Real username law (2015)

GitHub’s site policy can be seen at: https://help.github.com/en/github/site-policy

If you believe this page violates those policies, you can click the report abuse button on Ciro’s profile, which links to: https://github.com/contact/report-abuse?report=cirosantilli+%28user%29 or you can just contacat support@github.com

If you do so, please feel free to also open an issue on this repository saying why you believe the site policy has been violated.

Those issues will be marked with: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Aabuse-report+

It will be fun to watch you try, and fail.

This is because you do not understand how important the concept of freedom of speech is in the West, and how amazing it feels when you are right, and it protects you.

The only thing that would work is if the Chinese government makes a gov-takedown on this repo: [github-gov-takedowns], in which case: [strategy-if-this-repo-gets-added-to-github-gov-takedowns].

China’s GitHub censorship history is documented at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_GitHub#China

2.24.2.1. GitHub gov-takedowns

2.24.2.2. GitHub repositories with censored information

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhihu

The Chinese Quora clone with Chinese characteristics (political censorship https://www.quora.com/How-strict-is-Zhihus-content-censorship).

Some interesting questions not related to Ciro Santilli 三西猴. Ciro related questions at: [zhihu-questions-related-to-ciro-santilli].

• Censorship 审查

  • https://www.zhihu.com/question/29279520/answer/110611566 "为什么有人一边支持审查制度一边还喜欢看美剧、日漫？" "Why are some people in favor of censorship, but at the same time still like to watch American series?" (archive)

  • Censorship in Zhihu

    • https://www.zhihu.com/question/23376181 "你对知乎的审查系统有何意见？" "What is your view of Zhihu’s censorship system?" (archive) "由于众所周知的原因，知乎上的文章和答案一旦涉及某些字眼，就会触发审查，其方式是让你的文字暂时仅自己可见"

    • https://www.zhihu.com/question/21099730 从知乎建站以来被封禁的用户都有哪些？Since Zhihu’s founding, which accounts have been blocked on the website? (archive) (archive). The top answer contains a list, and a brief explanation of why some of them were banned:

      • Ciro Santilli: S/O 红人 (fStack Overflow celebrity)

      • "ww" in explanations means "big laugh" according to: https://hinative.com/zh-CN/questions/8349706 because a single "w" means a small laugh

      • several accounts are linked to one specific answer or comment

      • other accounts are classified as often commenting on politically sensitive material (政治敏感)

• Falun Gong 法輪大法

  • How is it like to live with Falun Gong believers?

    • https://www.zhihu.com/question/27659795 (blocked as of 2020-04, archive from 2015) 家里有人练法轮功是一种怎样的体验？ How is it like to live with Falun Gong believers?

  • Falun Gong is completely different in the West than it was in China

    • https://www.zhihu.com/question/23988890 (blocked as of 2020-04, 2016-03 archive) "全能神教在境外，法轮功也在境外，为什么他们不祸害境外人民、偏偏只祸害大陆人？"Eastern Lightning exists outside of the country [China], Falun Gong exists outside of the country, so why is is that they don’t harm people in those countries, but only harm people in Mainland China?"

• Gay rights LGBT权利

  • https://www.zhihu.com/question/370080866/answer/1046195468 "为什么中国影视作品不允许LGBT的出现？" "Why is it not allowed to show LGBT content in Chinese film and television?" (archive)

• [zhihu-censorship-of-hao-haidong]

2.24.3.1. Ciro Santilli’s Zhihu purge 2019-11-03

2.24.3.2. Zhihu questions related to Ciro Santilli

https://www.quora.com/profile/Ciro-Santilli

Quora is a generally shitty website, with mechanisms that allow wumaos to quench freedom of speech.

Ironically, is it also blocked in China:

• according to GreatFire 自由微博: https://en.greatfire.org/https/www.quora.com

• 2018-03 news coverage https://www.businessinsider.com/china-banned-zhihu-over-censorship-2018-3?r=US&IR=T

Examples of activity related to Ciro Santilli:

• 2016 Ciro Santilli’s profile was blocked because it had Chinese keywords on both my username and credentials. Justification: "non-English".

• 2017 created one in English: Cook Tiananmen Square Noodle Shop, from Falun, Sweden 法轮，瑞典

  Added my Noodle shop to maps: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Tiananmen+Square+Noodle+Shop/@60.6132538,15.6687509,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x94603408e3c63fb3!8m2!3d60.6132538!4d15.6687509

  Leach websites that picked it up: https://kvalster.se/Falu/Uthyres/Lagenheter/Gammelvagen_49_1417351

Quora is also shitty because wumaos can downvote your answer privately regardless of reputation and make it become collapsed as "Answer may need improvement", which means it goes to the bottom and readers have to click an "expand collapsed answers" button to see it, so that very few people will ever see it.

Then have to appeal and wait for moderators to evaluate it.

This happened for example at: https://www.quora.com/What-would-happen-if-I-walked-around-Beijing-with-a-t-shirt-that-said-freedom-of-speech-is-pretty-great/answer/Ciro-Santilli (see also What happens if you wear a T-shirt with censored words in China?).

Ciro appealed in 2020-03-10 and the answer was reinstated on day later, but by then the question was already not being suggested as much to readers, and the other wumao answers (which criticize the USA rather than answering the question about China).

While there is some probability that the answers themselves are not wumaos, their upvoters almost certainly are and must be investigated.

Other shitty aspects of Quora include:

• automatically add random topics that you don’t care about to your suggestions, with no easy way to prevent that.

• questions cannot have more than one sentence. There used to be a question body, but it was replaced with a "link for context". Ridiculous.

As a result, on the few occasions that Ciro posts on Quora, all content will also be mirrored here. Ciro’s China Quora answers include:

• What would happen if I walked around Beijing with a t-shirt that said "freedom of speech is pretty great"? (archive) see also: What happens if you wear a T-shirt with censored words in China?

• What is the net worth of Xi Jinping? see also: Panama papers 巴拿马文件 (2016)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PTT_Bulletin_Board_System | https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/批踢踢

Popular Taiwanese forum system and server from 1995, pre HTML, works from telnet terminal, so likely very programmer heavy, and obviously anti-CCP, as of 2020 often shows Falun Gong 法輪大法 ads.

Ciro Santilli’s appearances on PTT:

• 2020-01-31: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1580484253.A.37A.html "stackoverflow菁英卻痛恨中國" by "Eric0605 (我還有點餓)" on the Gossiping board

• 2017-06-19 https://pttweb.tw/s/2K9zV "Ciro Santilli 709大抓捕 六四事件 法轮" on the Gossiping board

• 2016-10-03 https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Soft_Job/M.1478104872.A.916.html "Github也出現網軍了嗎?" by gocreating on the Soft_Job board

Archaic, fucking impossible to learn how to use. Ciro Santilli hasn’t managed yet, so if you want a reply from him, open an issue on this repo instead.

TODO: can anyone comment, without having a Taiwanese university address? This suggests no: https://www.reddit.com/r/taiwan/comments/1etbvb/anyone_on_pttcc_advice_suggestions/ Also asked at:

• https://www.quora.com/unanswered/Can-you-comment-on-the-PTT-Bulletin-Board-System-at-ptt-cc-from-Taiwan-without-working-or-studying-at-a-Taiwanese-university

• https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues/92

Maybe the email requirement is the only way to prevent wumaos from flooding the website.

Normal people see it on a web viewer hosted on: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/index.html

However it is fucking impossible to web archive that web interface because there is a cookie I’m 18-years-old confirmation before the first connection.

This shows how to connect for the first time: https://www.ptt.cc/index.firstbbs.html

One attempt is:

But the main page says:

"本站目前暫停開放新帳號註冊。" "This site is currently suspended for new account registration."

And you try new it says: "目前無法註冊帳號![按任意鍵繼續]" "Account cannot be registered at this time."

OK, ptt2 went further:

Then there is a registration process that seem to require you to prove that you work at Taiwanese university, but not sure it is mandatory to post.

But I couldn’t find Gossiping there either, which is the only board that matters, so not sure it is on this server.

Figure 76. Rebel Pepper 变态辣椒 2018-09 cartoon showing Jesus and the Apostles in the Last Supper being arrested by CCP guards. Source.

Figure 77. Zhang Hongtu cartoon showing Mao Zedong and other communist officials at the Last Supper instead of Jesus and the Apostles. Source.

https://youtu.be/wthHB3iTC7M?t=556 Nazi Jew deleted scene from Monty Python’s Life of Brian (1979). This movie was almost banned in Britain at the time due to lobbying by Christian groups. If you want to stop Christianity 基督教, don’t put them in jail like the dictators. Do it the same way you stop dictators: with comedy. Otherwise, the dictators remain in power, and next person in jail, will be you.

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Lightning

• https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/全能神教會

A persecuted Christian sect that believes that some Chinese woman is Jesus.

Figure 79. Lesbian couple kissing in Tiananmen Square with Mao’s painting and confused/disgusted guards in the background who are likely about to call their superiors to ask what they should do. The photo likely surfaced in 2006 as mentioned in salon.com which said it came form Boing Boing. It was not however picked up by any major website. Ciro actually thought this could have been ripped from some television series due to the amazing expression on the guards' faces. TODO: find the original Chinese source, translate the watermarks, and see if their identity is known. Source.

Figure 80. Qing dynasty (18th–19th c.) panel from a scroll showing two men engaging in foreplay, apparently located in the Kinsey Institute as of 2005. For an ancient depiction of heterosexual sexual activity, see this image. Source.

Figure 81. Falun Gong believer arrested by police in Beijing Tiananmen Square in 15 August 2001. Source.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClvX7ED8UUI Tim and Eric’s Zone Theory. If you want to stop Falun Gong 法輪大法, don’t put them in jail like the dictators. Do it the same way you stop dictators: with comedy. Otherwise, the dictators remain in power, and next person in jail, will be you.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IAQ14AnAsmU YouTubber under pseudonym "Aarvoll" (TODO full real name, face shown in channel all the time) tells about his experience playing trumpet for Shen Yun in 2013 as a non-believer and Falun Gong in general. Reading the sacred books and doing Falun Gong exercises were mandatory. He also talks about FLG downplays the fact that it is highly organized. Ciro agrees/finds what he says convincing. In one interesting anecdote, he tells how although Li Hongzhi claims to be a God, he looked like an average slightly overweight dude, and had a trumpet since he used to play it, but couldn’t really play it because he hadn’t practiced in so long. He also comments on the obvious fact that Li does not speak English very well, e.g. on the Shen Yun tour bus he was there one day answering questions, and a translator was needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwoO7Nekmpw&t=445 Christine Marie, founder of Voices for Dignity which takes care of FLDS leaves, was interviewed in VICE documentary "Polygamist Mafia: Escaping The Kingston Clan". While Ciro does not believe Falun Gong is as extreme as FLDS, he does really like the things Christine says. E.g., she calls "cult leaders" with the neutral religious form prophet, just like Ciro, and mentions the important fact that "And the another thing that the public doesn’t realise, is that there are also beautiful thing within those communities". This is the mindset of tolerance that the world needs.

The main reason Ciro Santilli 三西猴 emphasizes FLG is that it shows how the CCP can mercilessly crush a 70M strong group (according to CCPs own statistics) out of a population of 1.3B in 2000, i.e. 5% of the population, and of course not because of Does Ciro Santilli support FLG just because his wife and mother-in-law do it?, since Ciro is completely and totally unbiased.

If that number is correct, Ciro wonders curious what you would consider an important movement? :-)

Anything much larger would take down the government and change China’s history forever.

OK, maybe the fact that 69M of those were likely old ladies didn’t help much either. Tip to next prophet: make something that appeals to aspiring military officers.

Let’s try to gather some well sourced footage showing huge numbers of believers on the streets:

• https://www.aparchive.com/search?query=falun%20gong&from=1&orderBy=OldestFirst#7e34a6 AP Archive: could not find a good one there

• rehashes of Falun Gong propaganda videos with good footage:

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7cz4Tkbwy8 contains old good footage

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDRUp50XkSs Chinese with English subs, above is rehashed from this one most likely

No, Ciro is agnostic (不可知论) and therefore believes that all the metaphysics that FLG is dangerous because Li Hongzhi has too much power over followers 李洪志 says is bullshit.

Here are some things that he doesn’t like about Falun Gong for example: [things-ciro-santilli-dislikes-about-falun-gong].

Ciro believes Falun Gong can be split into two parts, like any other religion:

• the "self-help" "how to live well" part, including the physical exercises and meditation, which cannot be proven or disproven, like any other self-help and political opinion

• the metaphysics, most notably, Li Hongzhi is a living God, and all other non verifiable things he claims like aliens, alternate dimensions, etc., see:

  • Is Falun Gong a religion? 法轮功是一个宗教吗？

  • FLG never makes any predictions that can be reasonably verified by non-believers

Ciro thinks that FLG’s self-help part could potentially be good for you, just like many other meditative practices such as Yoga, Buddhist meditation, Tai chi, deep Catholic prayer, etc. As far as he has heard, all of it sounded good standard religious self-help: be peaceful, be good to others, etc. Like any other well managed religion, FLG does have good things to offer, see also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwoO7Nekmpw&t=445 Christine Marie, founder of Voices for Dignity which takes care of FLDS leaves, was interviewed in VICE documentary "Polygamist Mafia: Escaping The Kingston Clan". While Ciro does not believe Falun Gong is as extreme as FLDS, he does really like the things Christine says. E.g., she calls "cult leaders" with the neutral religious form prophet, just like Ciro, and mentions the important fact that "And the another thing that the public doesn’t realise, is that there are also beautiful thing within those communities". This is the mindset of tolerance that the world needs..

However Ciro believes that the metaphysics is all complete and utter bullshit, child stories made up by Li Hongzhi, and just as real as Father Christmas or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Also the "obligation to reach Salvation" is boring like for many other prophetic religion.

From a purely strategic point of view, the metaphysics is a trade-off:

• some people will believe you are a freaking living God

• others will laugh at you and say you are a charlatan

It may be argued however that Li played this card beautifully: since all Chinese power is concentrated in the CCP, any non-CCP movement dies out, so he was better off long run playing the metaphysics game. The only other choice would have been joining the CCP.

To Ciro it is obvious that Falun Gong is just one of the many very similar movements that came out of the Qi Gong Boom, such as: Zhong Gong 中华养生益智功 (中功). It just happens to be the one that survived due to better luck and strategy.

The absolute truth is already known by the prophet, although he does not want to give clear evidence for reasons: FLG never makes any predictions that can be reasonably verified by non-believers, and Ciro finds that utterly boring. There’s no fun in living in a world where the absolute truth has been found.

For these reasons, Ciro cannot bother to read even into the self-help part: how can you read that when there is so much bullshit every other page?

Ciro would really like to know if LHZ really believes in FLG himself, or is just a complete manipulating charlatan, but unfortunately we will never know that. Just imagine if before he died he published a video saying: "it was a joke, gotcha!". Now that would be epic!

Since Ciro is good-natured, it’s hard for him to believe that he doesn’t believe in anything, how can anyone be that evil? Maybe he believes in part of it, but made up some stuff to sell it better, maybe with good intentions that selling the fake part would also lead more people to see the good part?

Like any other prophetic religion, FLG gives tiny evidence that you can directly feel through meditation. The energies, which Ciro believe are real feelings. And then using that entry point asks you to believe a whole lot more, that you can’t feel: FLG never makes any predictions that can be reasonably verified by non-believers.

This becomes especially strong when a critical mass of believers is reached, and then they start interpreting all sorts of events as miracles, and you start to believe other believers without questioning them, and a circle is formed.

This post by a former believer gives what Ciro feels is a realistic account that matches Ciro’s observations: Me and Li by Ben Hurley (2017).

And yet, all those who love freedom, must oppose FLG ban, or be themselves enslaved by tyrants themselves: Why does Ciro Santilli say that democracy is a religion just like Falun Gong?.

In any case, at least FLG got one thing right: the commies are evil, and we have to get rid of them.

See also: FLG is fake 法轮功是假的.

2.27.2.1. How much does Ciro Santilli know about Falun Gong? 三西猴对法轮功有多熟悉？

If asked if they follow a religion, most FLG believers will say "no".

E.g. they call themselves "practitioners" or "students" (学员) instead of "believers", and their peers "practitioner colleagues" (同修). And if you say you don’t believe in their FLG metaphysics bullshit, they will often reply "he does not understand". To them, it is not about belief, the truth is clear, and you just don’t see it yet. To this you should reply: "and you don’t understand that Li Hongzhi is a master manipulator dude who deceived you and millions of others".

But Ciro Santilli 三西猴 strongly believes that this is just a language barrier/FLG propaganda question (see also "Different levels of truth" from [orange-papers]), and that 99.99% of people in the West would classify FLG as a religion just like Christianity 基督教 if they are told about FLG’s beliefs:

• absolute truth comes from an enlightened prophet, who is perfect and has superhuman abilities

• weekly meetings (学法 "study the law (of the universe (of FLG is dangerous because Li Hongzhi has too much power over followers 李洪志))"）where they read from a sacred book, either written by the prophet, or transcribed from his presentations to disciples, including the disciples questions, much like traditional Chinese texts like The Analects of Confucius, just like Christians read from the Bible over and over again.

  In both cases, some believers claim that sometimes even reading the same text again gives them new insight.

• prescribed daily meditation exercise hours, somewhat like Muslim Salah prayers which they call 发正念 (fa1 zheng4 nian4), which means "send righteous thoughts". They seem to believe that this meditation helps external good magic things happen, so it is half meditation half prayer.

• longer "less mandatory" Qigong-like (气功) exercises followed by a meditation (打坐) and which they collectively call 修炼 "practice austerities". note that this term is borrowed from Taoism but possibly with different precise meaning. There are exactly 5 exercises (meditation being the fifth) some with a fun supernatural name:

  • Buddha Stretching a Thousand Arms

  • Falun Standing Stance

  • Penetrating the Cosmic Extremes

  • Falun Cosmic Orbit

• higher intelligent beings

• other dimensions, which some select people with vision superpowers can see

• aliens that look like humans are amongst us, they gave us part of our modern technology, some are evil, others not so evil

• meetings in which people tell their religious testimonies ("experience sharing" TODO Chinese name, possibly just "分享修炼的美好", e.g. source): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testimony#Religion

  As Jesus put it in Matthew 18:20:

  For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them

  which highlights the critical believer mass effect of reinforced beliefs.

• an impending final judgment-like event, which will happen "very soon" (unspecified date), and in which the just will be rewarded

  Ciro predict that when FLG is dangerous because Li Hongzhi has too much power over followers 李洪志 dies, the claim will be that he went to another dimension so save us all, therefore putting this final judgment on hold, a bit like Jesus.

• street preaching (讲真相 "truth-telling") with stands and leaflets on the streets exactly like Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  The Falun Gong organization also specifies guidelines on how to preach, although these might not be canon, even though if they are not, it is extremely likely that LHZ is directly involved in their specification

  Falun Gong has also used phone call preaching.

  All of this is part of their effort to "save people (救人)", i.e. convert them to Falun Gong.

• non-believers are fundamentally different from believers. Although non-followers who do good things are actually doing FLG without knowing it.

  FLG has a specific terminology for non-believers, which is translated in English as "ordinary people" (常人), as opposed to Falun Gong Believers, which Li calls Falun Gong disciples (大法弟子).

  Non-FLG people should therefore logically call Falun Gong believers abnormal people (异常人) in return, much like Ciro likes to call the Chinese who call him 老外 as "老内".

  Like other aspects of FLG however, this appears in other religions, e.g. my mother mentioned the funny term used by her Protestant’s group term but Ciro forgot it, and you can see it in Harry Potter as well: The Muggles.

• You can support FLG by doing X and Y, it is not mandatory, but why wouldn’t you since you are saving other people?

• alternate dimensions

• pre-civilization: civilization is actually much older than what we believe, and was supe radvanced, but societal collapse events led us to forget about it, a bit like atlantis.

• Maybe FLG will make you healthier, but no promises, but it will make you a better person, and that’s why you should do it, but if you really really believe, you get healthier. But people who seemed to be believers also die, because deep within their hearts, there was a belief problem.

• the CCP is evil, not figuratively, but literally as in they are representatives of, or evil supernatural beings themselves. E.g. Jiang Zemin 江泽民 (1989-2002) is actually an evil frog in some alternate dimension, literally, not just memecally. The Chinese Government is literally responsible for creating Covid-19. They give the CCP too much credit. The CCP are just a bunch of lazy and greedy people like you and me.