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The only question that matters is: should it be banned or not?
=== Do you believe in the allegations of organ harvesting made by Falun Gong believers?
In short: I believe that it has happened.
Long version:
It is obviously very hard to prove and quantify it definitely, much like it was hard to prove the Holocaust: bodies were cremated, and bribes were paid.
Even if we had a video showing the whole process, showing the whole money flow from donor to prison guard, it would still be hard to quantify it.
But consider the following, which is based on what I heard.
In China, either for religious beliefs, or pure lack of compassion, voluntary organ donation is not a common thing.
Then, there is a law or de-facto law that says that if the body of the person executed is not claimed by family, then the organs can be extracted even without the consent of the prisoner.
From this, even though China does not publish execution statistics, we can imagine that a large part of the organs comes from prisoners sentenced to death.
Then, consider that a 70 MILLION person religion was banned, leading to a HUGE influx of prisoners from that religion.
Also, people from that religion don't drink alcohol, smoke or take drugs, and their organs are of good quality.
Furthermore, they continue to not bow down to the government even in prison, by doing their <<flg-relition,Falun Gong meditation>>, which makes them clearly identifiable and dangerous to the system.
Finally, add to that mix the huge level of corruption found in dictatorships.
Don't you think, then, that it is extremely likely that it has happened many times that such people have been selected to be executed earlier than others on average, due to the monetary value of their organs?
Bibliography:
* The Slaughter: Mass Killings, Organ Harvesting, and China's Secret Solution to Its Dissident Problem, by Ehtan Gutmann, 2014
** <https://www.amazon.com/Slaughter-Killings-Harvesting-Solution-Dissident/dp/161614940X>
** <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Gutmann#The_Slaughter:_Mass_Killings,_Organ_Harvesting,_and_China's_Secret_Solution_to_Its_Dissident_Problem>
==== 2018 China Tribunal
2018 https://chinatribunal.com/
This is a mock tribunal, without any power of law, and was of course initially lobbied / organized brought up by FLG: https://endtransplantabuse.org/
However, none of the lawyers / jury members are FLG followers I believe, and I do believe that they are trying to honestly decide if there is enough evidence or not for organ harvesting in China.
They also have non-FLG witnesses.
Wether you believe in their partiality or not, I highly recommend watching some of what the witnesses, which I find very convincing and informative:
* https://youtu.be/oW3IaaXWE8s?t=7225 Swedish man who spent several years in prison in China
=== Things I personally dislike about FLG
But also as explaining why I don't think it justifies the ban.
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Interesting:
- <http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-cult_q0.html>
## Organ harvesting accusations
Book about it:
- <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Gutmann#The_Slaughter:_Mass_Killings,_Organ_Harvesting,_and_China's_Secret_Solution_to_Its_Dissident_Problem>
# News 新闻
- 2018-12 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=dsd1NkCKaNg> In full: 'I begged them to kill me' - ex-Xinjiang detainee Mihrigul Tursun gives testimony in the US
- 2018-11 <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45812419> Xinjiang legalises 're-education' camps
- 2018-08 <https://theintercept.com/2018/08/08/google-censorship-china-blacklist/>
- 2018-08 <https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-rights-un/u-n-says-it-has-credible-reports-that-china-holds-million-uighurs-in-secret-camps-idUSKBN1KV1SU>
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