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> We never said that. We gave specific examples of objectionable content. If you realise something isn't suitable - that it is something shocking, and not suitable for the workplace, as you seem to realise, it shouldn't be on your profile.
My intent is to convey extremely important information, not to shock.
However, in dictatorships like China, extremely important information is forbidden for unfair reasons, and therefore shocking.
> We never said that. We gave specific examples of objectionable content. If you realise something isn't suitable - that it is something shocking, and not suitable for the workplace, as you seem to realise, it shouldn't be on your profile.
You forbade any Nazi imagery clearly, including to criticize the Nazis, so that is clear and I will never again add Nazi imagery.
All anti-CCP content is extremely shocking to many Chinese people (but not others). And it is not suitable for the workplace for anyone there, that is unquestionable.
Therefore, from your reply, I understand that anti-CCP content is not allowed because it is not suitable for the workplace in China, as it is shocking.
Is this understand correct? Can you please confirm very clearly and directly: do you forbid all anti-CCP imagery or not? And if it is just a partial ban, what is allowed and what is not more precisely?
My understanding from top answers at: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/349131/users-political-display-name-triggering-government-action-against-users-who-vie is that such criticism of the CCP is allowed on the website, even though it is clearly not suitable for the workplace in China.
Sorry to ask this further, but I need a clearer guideline so I can follow it.
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[[other-openly-dissident-users-on-stack-overflow]]
===== Other openly dissident users on Stack Overflow (Stack Overflow 上的其他公开持不同政见的用户)
For non-Stack Overflow specific ones see: <<chinese-dissidents>>
Query to find them: https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/312860/chinese-dissidents-by-keyword-aboutme-or-displayname
Notable ones only here (high rep or innovative criticism):
* "GNUSupporter 8964民主女神 地下教會"
** Real name: Vincent Tam from social media links.
** https://math.stackexchange.com/users/290189/gnusupporter-8964民主女神-地下教會#
** https://web.archive.org/web/20191209202831/https://math.stackexchange.com/users/290189/gnusupporter-8964%E6%B0%91%E4%B8%BB%E5%A5%B3%E7%A5%9E-%E5%9C%B0%E4%B8%8B%E6%95%99%E6%9C%83
** Keyword attack inspired by me
* Yu Hao
** https://stackoverflow.com/users/1009479/yu-hao
** https://archive.is/76FCb
** "<<gfw,GFW (Great Firewall of China)>> is one of the most notorious inventions in the history of Internet. Anyone working for it should be ashamed."
* gotqn
** "Free Tibet From China Domination"
** https://stackoverflow.com/users/1080354/gotqn
** https://web.archive.org/web/20190821105901/https://stackoverflow.com/users/1080354/gotqn
* Scott 混合理论
https://stackoverflow.com/users/1230329/scott-混合理论
The same message as Yu Hao, I wonder if it is an external thing or direct copy of Yu, but no Google hits besides them.
* Terry Wang
** https://stackoverflow.com/users/1801697/terry-wang
** https://archive.is/V0aSK
** Lego recreation of Tankman on the profile picture: <<lego-tank-man>>
Users who had <<gfw,GFW>> references but removed it:
* https://stackoverflow.com/users/4594532/gnimuc-key
** https://web.archive.org/web/20170331144256/https://stackoverflow.com/users/4594532/gnimuc
* https://stackoverflow.com/users/651907/jclin
** https://web.archive.org/web/20160516065151/https://stackoverflow.com/users/651907/jclin
* <location>火车站酒店小姐 (about 20 accounts with that pattern)
** https://stackoverflow.com/users/7040504/莆田火车站酒店小姐
** https://web.archive.org/web/20190428090348/https://stackoverflow.com/users/7040504/%E8%8E%86%E7%94%B0%E7%81%AB%E8%BD%A6%E7%AB%99%E9%85%92%E5%BA%97%E5%B0%8F%E5%A7%90
** Interesting list of prostitution spam/sockpuppets? All have the exact same profile information.
** Hitting query due to "审查", but the usage is unrelated to the Firewall.
Query to find them: https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/312863/mentioned-ciro-santilli-on-aboutme-or-displayname
[[stack-overflow-anti-dissident-users]]
====== Stack Overflow anti-dissident users (Stack Overflow 反异见用户)
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*** username: "请封掉Ciro Santilli 中国共产党万岁"
*** profile: "中国万岁! 中国共产党万岁! 法轮功,民运,台独在中国共产党的铁蹄下不过是螳臂当车!"
** https://web.archive.org/web/20200830192811/https://stackoverflow.com/users/815408/lookintoeast became a coward, renamed to "LookIntoEast"
*** https://web.archive.org/web/20200910172706/https://stackoverflow.com/questions/63464732/how-to-set-a-custom-image-height-for-an-image-in-asciidoctor more shitcomments "可惜啊中国一天比一天强大繁荣,中国的实力碾压你们轮子跟捏死一只蚂蚁那么简单。哈哈哈哈", Yes, the CCP is very good at <<intolerance,putting old ladies in jail>>. A great thing to be proud of.
** left 3 "offensive" comments and downvoted some posts. Flagged them all. Easy suspension, https://archive.ph/lBlyk[7 days], 3 downvotes reversed as "Serial voting reversed":
*** https://web.archive.org/web/20210706074306/https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67750849/how-to-filter-by-event-type-in-chrome-devtools-profile-tab-e-g-to-see-mouse-cli?noredirect=1#comment120649535_67750849 快看,你轮子老婆正被野男人按在床上疯狂X!!! 因为你性无能!哈哈哈哈哈哈。轮子狗都是这种下场
*** https://web.archive.org/web/20210706074342/https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67773885/how-to-return-a-404-not-found-page-and-http-status-when-an-invalid-parameter-of/67773886?noredirect=1#comment120649386_67773886 快看!你老婆这只轮子🐔,一直被不同男人X呢!那个地方被X到流脓!因为你性无能哦,所以不停被你轮子老婆戴绿帽子!
*** https://web.archive.org/web/20210706074248/https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67787456/what-is-the-difference-between-fallback-false-vs-true-vs-blocking-of-getstaticpa?noredirect=1#comment120649323_67787456 轮子狗死全家!!!!!快看你妈刚被车撞死了!脑浆 一直喷!
** mentioned at https://v2ex.com/t/378274 from <<v2ex>>
** a questions only account, not many intelligent CCP supporters out there of course. 2020 edit mentions: https://web.archive.org/web/20200910173714/https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7152762/how-to-redirect-print-output-to-a-file-using-python mentions "How time flies. Almost 10 years ago I started to work on bioinformatics without any coding skills. Then I gave up my PhD and previous career and becomes a pure software engineer."
* https://stackoverflow.com/users/9393161
** https://web.archive.org/save/https://stackoverflow.com/users/9393161/ciro-santilli-%E7%9A%84%E9%80%A0%E8%B0%A3%E6%98%AF%E5%8F%AF%E8%80%BB%E8%A1%8C%E4%B8%BA
** username: "Ciro Santilli 的造谣是可耻行为" https://web.archive.org/save/https://stackoverflow.com/users/9393161/ciro-santilli-%E7%9A%84%E9%80%A0%E8%B0%A3%E6%98%AF%E5%8F%AF%E8%80%BB%E8%A1%8C%E4%B8%BA
* https://stackoverflow.com/users/8454187
** username: "Snowden Assange Wounded Knee"
** profile: "燃(ri)烧(si)您(ni)的(de)梦(ma),Ciro Santilli. StackOverflow上的一个用户. The Oliver Stone Experience"
** explanation:
*** "燃烧您的梦": http://www.nq6.com/dj/1674.html
*** "Wounded Knee": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre
* https://web.archive.org/web/20210621133747/https://stackoverflow.com/users/13740876/蔣禿賊送東北屠義士血染四一二蔡蛙魁請疫苗毒萬民跪地拜美倭
GiHub is the new <<xidan-democracy-wall>>! :) See also: <<meant-to-be-used>>.
Interesting repositories are listed at: <<github-repositories-with-censored-information>>
GitHub's site policy can be seen at: https://help.github.com/en/github/site-policy
If you believe this page violates those policies, see: <<github-report>>.
China's GitHub censorship history is documented at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_GitHub#China[], some events:
* 2019-07-29 https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/29/github-ban-sanctioned-countries/ "GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea". "As part of the push, Friedman said GitHub has enforced new restrictions to prevent users in sanctioned countries from accessing private repositories and GitHub Marketplace, as well as maintaining private paid organization accounts"
** https://github.com/1995parham/github-do-not-ban-us protest repo against the sanctions, archived as of 2020-08
** https://github.com/1995parham/github-do-not-ban-us/issues/1010 "Use gitee from china" recommending <<gitee>>
* <<censorship-circumvention>> contains some anti-censorship repositories
* <<cute-cat-theory-of-digital-activism>>
* https://www.quora.com/Is-GitHub-com-allowed-in-China/answer/Ciro-Santilli
[[github-report]]
===== How to report a user on GitHub (GitHub上怎么举报用户?)
Click the report abuse button on https://github.com/cirosantilli[Ciro's profile], which links to: https://github.com/contact/report-abuse?report=cirosantilli+%28user%29 or you can just contacat support@github.com
If you do so, please feel free to also open an issue on this repository saying why you believe the site policy has been violated.
Those issues will be marked with: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Aabuse-report+
This is because you do not understand how important the concept of <<richer,freedom of speech is>> in the West, and how amazing it feels when you are right, and it protects you.
The only thing that would work is if the Chinese government makes a gov-takedown on this repo: <<github-gov-takedowns>>, in which case: <<strategy-if-this-repo-gets-added-to-github-gov-takedowns>>.
In order to get this repository in gov-takedown, your best bet is to use the <<cac-report-website>>.
.How to report an user on GitHhub.
image::{china-dictatorship-media-base}/How_to_report_an_user_on_GitHub.png[height=2000]
[[github-censored-subdomains]]
===== GitHub censored subdomains (GitHub 审查的子域)
It appears according to <<greatfire>> however that there are some important GitHub censored subdomains, notably:
* https://raw.githubusercontent.com[], from which images and other downloads are served. Therefore all images served from GitHub should be broken in China
* https://gist.github.com[], https://en.greatfire.org/https/gist.github.com[]: meh, that's useless, just create a github.com/notes repo and dump your stuff there
However, at least for raw, <<geoscreenshot>> disagrees:
* 2020-09-30 https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship | http://web.archive.org/web/20200930075102/https://s3.amazonaws.com/geoscreenshot-static/d3fdb97d-2ac3-4f57-a737-6fab2997fb1a.html
* 2020-09-30 https://gist.github.com/ | https://archive.vn/wip/VUNU4
* https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/146517/how-it-is-possible-that-some-pages-of-an-https-website-like-github-are-marked-as
* https://twitter.com/cirosantilli/status/1310461733325148160
===== GitHub gov-takedowns (由其各自政府在某个国家审查的仓库的GitHub官方列表)
This official GitHub repository tracks which repositories are blocked in specific countries.
GitHub has absolute transparency about Government takedowns, which is awesome: https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/tree/master/China
This makes that repo into a list of fun things.
As of 2019-05 there had only been only two takedowns by China however, compared to dozens by <<russia>>. The Chinese commies are not big fans of transparency it seems.
As of 2020-03, besides the <<programthink,Zhao>> takedown, all other takedowns happened in 2019, and most seem to be <<falun-gong>>/<<epoch-times>> sponsored ways to <<censorship-circumvention,climb the wall>>.
The message GitHub shows on the blocked countries is:
This repository is currently disabled in your location. For more details please see the takedown notice.
Here are some examples of people reacting to the blocking of https://github.com/programthink/zhao/issues/38 as per https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/blob/78775b09e64d85f08547287cab204b48b2491192/China/2016/2016-06-08-programthink-zhao.md from China (and likely on the entire repository, which appears to be the block granularity implemented):
* https://github.com/programthink/books/issues/31 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191023093618/https://github.com/programthink/books/issues/31[archive])
* https://www.zhihu.com/question/284445884/ corresponding Google bomb at: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues/71
* https://program-think.blogspot.com/2018/04/Zhao-at-GitHub.html?comment=1524671692761#1524671692761
To check China only takedowns such as this, we cannot use <<censorship-monitoring,Great Fire Analyzer>>, which reports the page as accessible: the only tool <<ciro-santilli>> could find so far to capture a page from China a bit like Web Archive was: <<geoscreenshot>>
.<<geoscreenshot>> of https://github.com/programthink/zhao/issues/38 from <<programthink>> taken on 2020-09-31 from China. The "Repository unavailable in your location" message shows, since https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/blob/master/China/2016/2016-06-08-programthink-zhao.md[this repository is in gov-takedowns/china].
image::{china-dictatorship-media-base}/GitHub_Programthink_Zhao_issue_38_China_geoscreenshot_2020_09_31.png[height=400]
[[strategy-if-this-repo-gets-added-to-github-gov-takedowns]]
====== Strategy if this repo gets added to GitHub gov-takedowns (如果此 repo 被添加到 GitHub gov-takedowns 中的策略)
If this happens, we well proceed to create alternative repos `china-dictatorship-2`, `china-dictatorship-3`, etc. and it would be fun to see how that gets handled.
Edit: <<china-dictatorship-chinese-web-browser-block>>, <<ciro-santilli>> decided to create: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-2 even though the repository hadn't been added to gov-takedowns.
Can Github add an entire user to gov-takedowns? We shall find out.
But remember that we also have: <<mirrors>>, and that this can be easily rendered as a single HTML page and uploaded to any static website host.
====== gov-takedowns/China (由中共在国审查的库仓的GitHub官方列表)
Skipping all <<falun-gong>>/<<epoch-times>> repos with very few stars, mostly some <<gfw>> skip methods, those are noise, and possibly added only to dilute the real deal.
* 2016
** https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/blob/caef002cb19309c318ea01afb4d3cec98bcd4042/China/2016/2016-06-08-programthink-zhao.md[] https://github.com/programthink/zhao[]. <<programthink,Zhao>>
* 2019
** https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/blob/master/China/2019/2019-11-06-MPS.md
*** https://github.com/greatfire/wiki Wiki of <<greatfire>>. <<censorship-circumvention>>. Precise issue: https://github.com/greatfire/wiki/issues/166[] (no archives).
** https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/blob/master/China/2019/2019-12-12-MPS.md
*** https://github.com/gfw-breaker[], see also: <<github-repositories-with-censored-information>>
[[github-objectionable-content]]
===== GitHub "This repository may contain objectionable content" (此仓库可能包含令人反感的内容)
GitHub has a veru little known feature called:
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When GitHub admins set this on a repository, it has the following effects:
* the repository cannot be seen by logged off users! Trying to do that results in a redirect. This puts such repositories at great disadvantage on search engine optimization
* the first time you visit the repository, they ask you if you want to continue
This is not a transparent mechanism, as it does not clearly state why the repository has objectionable content.
Known repositories with that enabled:
* <<duty-machine>> as of August 2021 https://github.com/duty-machine/duty-machine[]:
** 2021-08-18 <<wayback-machine>>: redirects to login: https://web.archive.org/web/20210818110306/https://github.com/login?return_to=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fduty-machine%2Fduty-machine
** 2021-08-18 <<archive-today>>: https://archive.ph/jtX4p shows the actual message since it uses a logged-in user for its archives
* https://github.com/Yanqiu-gui/-[]. Appears to be some kind of textual softporn repo.
TODO: <<ciro-santilli>> once saw that message when visiting: https://github.com/Yanqiu-gui/-/issues/5 on 2021-05-19 for the first time, but not on the following ones.
How does that message get added exactly?
And you are forced you to login to view that repository!
Incredible, a hidden undocumented semi-hide-repo feature.
Here's an archive: https://archive.ph/VJQdD That click wall also prevents archives of the repository therefore.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9966118 GitHub threatens to shut down a repository for using the word 'retard' (2015)
For our mirror there, see: <<gitee-censorship>>.
Linked to "Open Source China" (开源中国) according to TechCrunch:
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* https://github.com/oschina GitHub OAuth goes through that organization
* https://www.oschina.net/ their website
At https://gitee.com/mirrors they mirrors 21 thousand repositories as of 2021, updating them daily, with the goal of having "higher download speeds" in mainland China. Not that their speed is shit because of censorships of course.
Mirrors containing Ciro's keywords or related interesting stuff:
* https://gitee.com/alexi126/linux-kernel-module-cheat https://archive.vn/wip/aDWVq
* https://toscode.gitee.com/rpbf/vim-snippets/blob/master/AUTHORS#L67 https://archive.vn/wip/MuuoK "Ciro Santilli 六四事件"
* sensitive domain lists:
* https://gitee.com/aiqz/pac ans specifically https://gitee.com/aiqz/pac/blob/master/pac.txt contains a proxy list with `||cirosantilli.com`, which is a decoded version of the base-64 encoded <<gfwlist>> normally used for <<censorship-circumvention>>. Lol.
* sensitive word lists. In <<censorship,censoring>>, we display. It is fun to see how they censor at every level, including the keyboard input method. Fear is everywhere, <<newspeak>> must be enforced at all costs:
* https://gitee.com/markxx/tochat/blob/dev/tochat.sql even website project templates must come with a censored word list: https://gitee.com/markxx/tochat/blob/dev/tochat.sql#L6299 "六四事件"
* https://gitee.com/aiban_junjie_fan/sensitive_words/blob/master/words.txt
* https://gitee.com/bryan31/liteBanner/blob/master/src/main/resources/sensi_words.txt
* https://gitee.com/thinksaas/thinksaas/blob/master/install/install.sql#L138
* https://gitee.com/guobinyong/wubixinshiji/blob/master/wubixinshiji.dict.yaml is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_method input program
* https://gitee.com/xkinput/xklbs/blob/master/星二S词库.txt
* https://gitee.com/latpaw/emacs/blob/master/site-lisp/eim/cjeb.txt#L10288[]. This interesting emacs config appears to expand e.g. `fclg` into `法轮功` on tab complete. Nice.
Ciro Santilli
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* commit history: https://gitee.com/mirrors/luarocks-build-xmake/commit/8b18f1f62ba26944f117ed549ddaeea210fbdd6e History must be controlled, history is dangerous. See also <<baidu,Baidu Baike>>, <<baidu-baike-censorship-of-hao-haidong>>:
* files larger than 1MB: https://gitee.com/xkinput/xklbs/blob/master/星二S词库.txt
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* 2020-11-10 https://www.theregister.com/2020/11/10/gitee_linux_foundation_china_mirror/ "China's government-anointed Git operator says it will become a Linux Foundation mirror"
* <<huawei>> open sourced is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmony_OS[Harmony OS] "IoT operating system" in Gitee: https://openharmony.gitee.com/openharmony
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* 2020-08-21 https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/21/china-is-building-its-github-alternative-gitee/ "China is building a GitHub alternative called Gitee"
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<<ciro-santilli>> commented about his <<gitee-censorship>> experiment there, it got 26 upvotes 13 downvotes, and as removed as "This post violated our policy.". There is no way to appeal that in that idiotic system. It is absed on: https://www.openweb.com/ It is also bugged as fuck. Sometimes says violates policy, then there's a JavaScript update andthe comment shows.
After posting our <<mirrors>> there, it was blocked in 12 hours:
* https://gitee.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship
** archive immediately after creation: https://web.archive.org/web/20200821202450if_/https://gitee.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship
** blocked archive 12 hours later: https://web.archive.org/web/20200822111436/https://gitee.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship
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** archive immediately after: https://web.archive.org/web/20200821202055/https://gitee.com/cirosantilli
** archive 12 hours later: https://web.archive.org/web/20200822111721/https://gitee.com/cirosantilli
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Other known blocked china-dictatorship forks:
* https://gitee.com/jaime_li/china-dictatorship no archives, can't find another account by the same user, but got a backlink 2021-06-22
The Chinese <<quora,Quora>> clone, but highly censored: <<zhihu-censorship>>.
Some interesting questions not related to <<ciro-santilli>>. Ciro related questions at: <<zhihu-questions-related-to-ciro-santilli>>.
* <<censorship>>
** https://www.zhihu.com/question/29279520/answer/110611566 "为什么有人一边支持审查制度一边还喜欢看美剧、日漫?" "Why are some people in favor of censorship, but at the same time still like to watch American series?" (https://web.archive.org/web/20200429091047/https://www.zhihu.com/question/29279520/answer/110611566[archive])
** Censorship in Zhihu
*** https://www.zhihu.com/question/23376181 "你对知乎的审查系统有何意见?" "What is your view of Zhihu's censorship system?" (https://web.archive.org/web/20200329115919/https://www.zhihu.com/question/23376181[archive]) "由于众所周知的原因,知乎上的文章和答案一旦涉及某些字眼,就会触发审查,其方式是让你的文字暂时仅自己可见"
*** https://www.zhihu.com/question/21099730 从知乎建站以来被封禁的用户都有哪些?Since Zhihu's founding, which accounts have been blocked on the website? (https://web.archive.org/web/20200112103049/https://www.zhihu.com/question/21099730[archive]) (https://archive.is/dH9pK[archive]). The top answer contains a list, and a brief explanation of why some of them were banned:
**** Ciro Santilli: S/O 红人 (fStack Overflow celebrity)
**** "ww" in explanations means "big laugh" according to: https://hinative.com/zh-CN/questions/8349706 because a single "w" means a small laugh
**** several accounts are linked to one specific answer or comment
**** other accounts are classified as often commenting on <<politically-sensitive>> material
* <<falun-gong>>
** <<flg-daily>>
*** https://www.zhihu.com/question/27659795 (https://web.archive.org/web/20200429084153/https://www.zhihu.com/signin?next=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zhihu.com%2Fquestion%2F27659795[blocked as of 2020-04], https://web.archive.org/web/20150603025013/http://www.zhihu.com/question/27659795[archive from 2015]) 家里有人练法轮功是一种怎样的体验? How is it like to live with Falun Gong believers?
** <<flg-changed>>
*** https://www.zhihu.com/question/23988890 (https://web.archive.org/web/20200429084640/https://www.zhihu.com/signin?next=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zhihu.com%2Fquestion%2F23988890[blocked as of 2020-04], https://web.archive.org/web/20160311140407/https://www.zhihu.com/question/23988890[2016-03 archive]) "全能神教在境外,法轮功也在境外,为什么他们不祸害境外人民、偏偏只祸害大陆人?"<<eastern-lightning,Eastern Lightning>> exists outside of the country [China], Falun Gong exists outside of the country, so why is is that they don't harm people in those countries, but only harm people in Mainland China?"
* <<gay-rights>>
** https://www.zhihu.com/question/370080866/answer/1046195468 "为什么中国影视作品不允许LGBT的出现?" "Why is it not allowed to show LGBT content in Chinese film and television?" (https://web.archive.org/web/20200429091622/https://www.zhihu.com/question/370080866/answer/1046195468[archive])
* <<zhihu-censorship-of-hao-haidong>>
.The Zhihu 404 page image. When they take the posts down as of 2020, it shows the 404 page which reads "你似乎来到了没有知识存在的荒原" (you seem to have come to a wasteland about which does does not exist any knowledge), and shows this symbol. https://web.archive.org/web/20200614114534/https://www.zhihu.com/topic/20080590/intro[Source].
i mage::https://web.archive.org/web/20200614114535im_/https://static.zhihu.com/heifetz/assets/liukanshan_wire.e7247fbf.svg[height=500]
[[zhihu-censorship]]
==== Zhihu censorship (知乎审查)
More general censorship discussion at: <<censorship>>.
* <<zhihu-purge>>
* <<zhihu-censorship-of-hao-haidong>>
* https://www.quora.com/How-strict-is-Zhihus-content-censorship
On this day, not only the posts made by Ciro himself were deleted: he had never asked any questions or made any Zhuanlan posts himself, only replied to those. But that content made by other users was still removed. Therefore, this is not just a simple user ban, but active censorship.
Ciro received an email from account@mail.zhihu.com:
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您好,Ciro Santilli,很抱歉您的回答受到了牵连,您回答过的问题「github.com@cirosantilli 是谁维护的,为什么会收集邮箱地址?」因「违反互联网相关法律法规」已被删除。
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followed by Ciro's answer to <<zhihu-46957710>>. Ciro could not login anymore, the login screen showed:
So likely someone must have used the fact that this was an edgy personally information release subject issue, and then someone from Zhihu decided to purge Ciro and anyone posts that ever talked about him.
* before deletion: https://web.archive.org/web/20190821075907/https://www.zhihu.com/people/cirosantilli/activities
* after deletion (redirects to login page): https://web.archive.org/web/20191103071033/https://www.zhihu.com/signin?next=http://www.zhihu.com/people/cirosantilli/activities
Random unblocked control account: https://www.zhihu.com/people/lu-zhen-yu-96-65/activities (https://web.archive.org/web/20191103070652/https://www.zhihu.com/people/lu-zhen-yu-96-65/activities[archive]).
Furthermore, all questions related to Ciro, including the posts criticizing him such as https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/25600138[] (https://archive.is/DkooN[archive]), were taken down. This made Ciro laugh: in China, you can't even criticize that which is censored, or your post also gets taken down.
Ciro then created an anonymous Zhihu account after this event.
Interestingly however, the following answer came up later on: <<zhihu-ted-chiang-answer>> and stayed up for at least 5 months, which indicates that Zhihu did a one-off removal, and did not set up a filter for Ciro's name.
<<ciro-santilli>> was banned from Zhihu on 2018-06-25 for "<<politically-sensitive>>" content.
As a result, since that time I will be answering Zhihu questions as issues in this repo with the `zhihu` label: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Azhihu+
I have however never posted anything politically sensitive on Zhihu, unless my name and profile picture have reached that distinction, and therefore the ban is clearly an unfair per-person ban.
But of course, all is fair in love and war, and politics.
Posting any sensitive content on Chinese websites is a waste of time, since it only means that they will be removed and you will waste time creating a new account, I will never do that.
The only significant content I ever posted on Zhihu is the answer to: https://www.zhihu.com/question/46957710/answer/122827944 which is purely technical, and trivial replies on threads that other people have started about me. Have those people been blocked like me?
My posts are still up and it does not appear to be possible for people to see that I have been banned, but whenever I try to take any action on the website a popup appears saying:
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由于严重违反 知乎社区管理规定 ,该帐号已被永久禁言
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This includes liking, commenting, answering, asking or trying to update my profile to say that I have been blocked.
This message also shows on my public page for everyone to see: https://www.zhihu.com/people/cirosantilli/activities but they use some JavaScript scheme complicated enough that archive.is cannot capture it.
I still get notifications however, but I am unable to reply to them, especially given that all Chinese accounts, unlike mine, have no personal identifiable information due to the understandable fear Chinese citizens have of their own government, even though such accounts might be illegal in theory: <<anonymous-account-ban>>.
The only action that I can take now is to report abusive comments people make to me.
Obviously, the only effect of such ban is that I will create an <<anonymous-account-ban,anonymous account>> under Tor with a second cell phone if I wish to contribute in the future, and China will have less information about my political interests than before.
The private messages the website sends while banning you are:
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知乎管理员 :您好,根据用户举报,您的帐号发布了「<<politically-sensitive,政治敏感>>」内容,帐号已根据知乎社区规范被永久禁言。处理详情可查看社区服务中心。具体规范请查看知乎社区管理规定。 6月25日 16:37 回复 | 删除
知乎管理员 :您好,根据用户举报,您的部分个人信息由于不符合知乎用户信息管理规范已被重置。用户名可以在设置页面中修改,修改后会自动进入审核等待通过;其他个人信息可以在个人主页中编辑。感谢您对知乎社区的理解和支持。 6月25日 16:37 回复 | 删除
Those messages contain links to: https://www.zhihu.com/terms2 | https://archive.is/wdXSz and https://www.zhihu.com/question/19551824 | https://archive.is/BrgV2
The ban came soon after I posted a link to my GitHub repo as a comment at: https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/21/ice-employee-list-github-linkedin/ maybe they are related.
[[who-reported-ciro-santilli-on-zhihu]]
====== Who reported Ciro Santilli on Zhihu (谁在知乎上举报了 Ciro Santilli)
At the same time the ban happened I received a public comment from user "Eureka" https://www.zhihu.com/people/crb912/activities | https://archive.is/1F3t6 on this thread: https://www.zhihu.com/question/46957710 | https://archive.is/PVOLd saying:
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你滥用了github, 也滥用了Stackover。这个一个纯粹计算机、编程和知识分享的地方,请不要带入政治性的色彩。请不要这么做, 维护社区的非政治性、中立和技术性纯粹,是每个热爱cs的人应尽的义务。
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I am unable to get a URL that shows the comment on archive.is, so I have no proof of this claim. If you trust me, then here is a screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/YCiEEax
Since I expect the ban lists to be private, I find it extremely likely that this was the user who reported me, unless both were simultaneously triggered by a third event which I have not seen. So correct me if I'm wrong here.
Users with the same user id `crb912`, related "Eureka" username or same profile picture, can be found at:
* https://www.weibo.com/crb912 (unable to archive) on <<weibo>>
* https://github.com/crb912 | https://archive.is/heGfd which suggests a possible real name
By Googling the email found on the GitHub repos, we find: http://www.360doc.com/content/15/0809/11/25724933_490492490.shtml | https://archive.is/2UnGL which might, at last, contain a photo of my nemesis.
My public message to the reporter whomever he may be:
While you have also raised issues that were raised a thousand times before, and clearly answered in the FAQ, at least you were able to take some actual action leading to an actual ban, and I respect you for that.
I hope that one day you will redirect that cunning and initiative towards taking down the root cause of the problem, which are the Chinese communist Party and their Firewall themselves.
[[zhihu-questions-related-to-ciro-santilli]]
===== Zhihu questions related to Ciro Santilli (三西猴相关的知乎问题)
All Zhihu posts related to Ciro Santilli were deleted following <<zhihu-purge>>. Some had been deleted before.
* 2019-06-12: https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/68869259 (https://web.archive.org/web/20190905071450/https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/68869259[archive before deletion], (https://web.archive.org/web/20191103072349/https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/68869259[archive after deletion])) "德国极端分子黑我们大中国!犯我中华者,虽远必诛!!". Ciro wonders why the poster thought Ciro was German.
* 2019-03: https://www.zhihu.com/question/316700162 (https://archive.is/ewxqb[archive before deletion], (https://web.archive.org/web/20191103065512/https://web.archive.org/screenshot/https://www.zhihu.com/question/316700162[archive after deletion])) "如何看待Github Trending上Ciro Santilli的众多开源项目?". Due to: https://github.com/cirosantilli/x86-bare-metal-examples being featured on Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19428700
* 2018-11: https://www.zhihu.com/question/302738350 (https://archive.is/lkQxS[archive before deletion], (https://web.archive.org/web/20191103065759/https://www.zhihu.com/question/302738350[archive after deletion])) "如何评价Ciro Santilli对Stack Overflow和GitHub的扰乱?"
* 2017-03-07: https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/25600138 (https://archive.is/DkooN[archive before deletion], (https://web.archive.org/web/20191103065808/https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/25600138[archive after deletion])) "StackOverflow 上的一个智障用户"
** 2017-03 https://sololand.moe/2017/03/06/brain-fucked-user-on-stackoverflow (https://web.archive.org/save/https://sololand.moe/2017/03/06/brain-fucked-user-on-stackoverflow/[archive]) by https://github.com/brglng/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20180802090918/https://github.com/brglng/[archive]) "StackOverflow 上的一个智障用户" contains a copy of the post by the same author.
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It just makes Ciro smile whenever he thinks that their post criticizing Ciro was deleted by the CCP, and they still might support the CCP, <<meant-to-be-used,Stockholm syndrome comes to mind>>.
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As of 2020, that website generates a constant stream of incoming traffic to the issue it links to: https://github.com/cirosantilli/chat/issues/26[]. Unfortunately brglng was a coward and removed his comments leaving the conversation a bit broken, and this was before Ciro <<wayback-machine,web archived obsessively>>.
* 2015-08-18: https://www.zhihu.com/question/34775392 (https://web.archive.org/web/20160219094646/https://www.zhihu.com/question/34775392[archive before deletion], (https://web.archive.org/web/20191103065816/https://www.zhihu.com/question/34775392[archive after deletion])) "你们怎么看stackoverflow上某人故意屏蔽中国访问的事件?"
A random control question that shows that archive.org 404's are actually deleted questions: https://www.zhihu.com/question/316700165 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191103065449/https://www.zhihu.com/question/316700165[archive]).
* https://www.zhihu.com/question/21099730 at <<zhihu>>
[[zhihu-ted-chiang-answer]]
====== Answer to the Zhihu question "How do you evaluate Ted Chiang's 'Evil Chinese Characters' essay?" "如何评价姜峯楠(Ted Chiang)在纽约客上的随笔《坏汉字》?"的回答
https://www.zhihu.com/question/47205991/answer/967940202 (http://web.archive.org/web/20200628101940/https://www.zhihu.com/question/47205991/answer/967940202[archive])
Contains reactions to the post: <<evil-chinese-characters-by-ted-chiang>>, and this answer says that even though Ciro Santilli is amazingly smart, he cannot be bothered to learn Chinese characters, quoting Ciro's comments from: <<does-ciro-santilli-speak-chinese>>.
This post was interesting because it happened after <<zhihu-purge>>, which indicates that Zhihu did not setup an automated "Ciro Santilli" filter.
[[zhihu-46957710]]
====== github.com@cirosantilli 是谁维护的,为什么会收集邮箱地址?
https://www.zhihu.com/question/46957710 (https://archive.is/PVOLd[archive before deletion], (https://web.archive.org/web/20191103065828/https://www.zhihu.com/question/46957710[archive after deletion])).
Asked in 2016-09 after Ciro published: https://github.com/cirosantilli/all-github-commit-emails
Deleted after <<zhihu-purge>>. Ciro's answer before deletion:
你用的git config user.email当然是公开的:谁都会git clone就知道了。
然后,Google用了那个API给他们的https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/...信息。
1. Google 把邮件从BigQuery删除
2. GitHub 更新他们的隐私声明GitHub Privacy Statement
Quora is https://cirosantilli.com/quora[a generally shitty website], with mechanisms that allow <<wumao,wumaos>> to quench freedom of speech.
Quora is a major platform for <<astroturfing>>.
Ironically, as usual, is it also blocked in China:
* according to <<greatfire>>: https://en.greatfire.org/https/www.quora.com
* 2018-03 news coverage https://www.businessinsider.com/china-banned-zhihu-over-censorship-2018-3?r=US&IR=T
Examples of activity related to Ciro Santilli:
* 2016 Ciro Santilli's profile was blocked because it had Chinese keywords on both my username and credentials. Justification: "non-English".
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* 2017 created one in English: Cook <<tiananmen,Tiananmen Square>> Noodle Shop, from <<falun-sweden>>
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Added my Noodle shop to maps: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Tiananmen+Square+Noodle+Shop/@60.6132538,15.6687509,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x94603408e3c63fb3!8m2!3d60.6132538!4d15.6687509
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Leach websites that picked it up: https://kvalster.se/Falu/Uthyres/Lagenheter/Gammelvagen_49_1417351
Quora is also shitty because wumaos can downvote your answer privately regardless of reputation and make it become collapsed as "Answer may need improvement", which means it goes to the bottom and readers have to click an "expand collapsed answers" button to see it, so that very few people will ever see it.
Then have to appeal and wait for moderators to evaluate it.
This happened for example at: https://www.quora.com/What-would-happen-if-I-walked-around-Beijing-with-a-t-shirt-that-said-freedom-of-speech-is-pretty-great/answer/Ciro-Santilli (see also <<t-shirt>>).
Ciro appealed in 2020-03-10 and the answer was reinstated on day later, but by then the question was already not being suggested as much to readers, and the other wumao answers (which criticize the USA rather than answering the question about China).
While there is some probability that the answers themselves are not wumaos, their upvoters almost certainly are and must be investigated.
* block <<wayback-machine>> archives with their robots.txt, gotta use <<archive-today>>
* automatically add random topics that you don't care about to your suggestions, with no easy way to prevent that.
* questions cannot have more than one sentence. There used to be a question body, but it was replaced with a "link for context". Ridiculous.
As a result, on the few occasions that Ciro posts on Quora, all content will also be mirrored here. Ciro's China Quora answers include:
* https://www.quora.com/What-would-happen-if-I-walked-around-Beijing-with-a-t-shirt-that-said-freedom-of-speech-is-pretty-great/answer/Ciro-Santilli[What would happen if I walked around Beijing with a t-shirt that said "freedom of speech is pretty great"?] (https://archive.is/PxjJA[archive]) see also: <<t-shirt>>
* https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-net-worth-of-Xi-Jinping/answer/Ciro-Santilli[What is the net worth of Xi Jinping?] see also: <<panama-papers>>
* http://archive.is/WzIcg[]: a Han supremacist!
* on <<reddit>>
** 2021-03 https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/lv0n24/has_quora_been_overrun_with_chinese_propaganda/
*** 2021-04 https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/mkfgrb/quora_is_officially_a_propaganda_network_for_the/
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PTT_Bulletin_Board_System
* https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/批踢踢
Popular <<taiwan,Taiwanese>> forum system and server from 1995, pre HTML, works from telnet terminal, so likely very programmer heavy, and obviously anti-CCP, as of 2020 often shows <<falun-gong>> ads.
* 2020-10-09: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/joke/M.1602211516.A.3FB.html 如何一秒惹怒中國人 (how to provoke a Chinese person in one second) by https://pttweb.tw/user/abc60575986/[abc60575986] saying "台灣是一個國家" (Taiwan is a country). Then https://pttweb.tw/user/kugwa/[kugwa] linked to <<keyword-attack,Ciro Santilli's Stack Overflow profile>>
* 2020-01-31: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1580484253.A.37A.html "stackoverflow菁英卻痛恨中國" by https://pttweb.tw/user/Eric0605/["Eric0605 (我還有點餓)"] on the Gossiping board. One of the comments then links to http://cirosantilli.com
* 2017-06-19 https://pttweb.tw/s/2K9zV "Ciro Santilli <<the-709-crackdown,709大抓捕>> 六四事件 法轮" on the Gossiping board
* 2016-10-03 https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Soft_Job/M.1478104872.A.916.html "Github也出現網軍了嗎?" (Is there an emerging wumao army on GitHub?) by gocreating on the Soft_Job board
Archaic, fucking impossible to learn how to use. Ciro Santilli hasn't managed yet, so if you want a reply from him, open an issue on this repo instead. Some tips:
* on the web UI rendering replies can be either likes (推 as in 推荐), dislikes (噓, hush!) or neutral (right arrow)
* per-page threads are basically flat. You can however reply to another post with a "Re:" post. One application of this seems to be to post images which might only be allowed on the thread starters, e.g.: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/joke/M.1602324724.A.CA0.html is a "Re:" to https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/joke/M.1602211516.A.3FB.html It is not clear if Re: and original posts are interlinked in any way.
TODO: can anyone comment, without having a Taiwanese university address? This suggests no: https://www.reddit.com/r/taiwan/comments/1etbvb/anyone_on_pttcc_advice_suggestions/ Also asked at:
* https://www.quora.com/unanswered/Can-you-comment-on-the-PTT-Bulletin-Board-System-at-ptt-cc-from-Taiwan-without-working-or-studying-at-a-Taiwanese-university
* https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues/92
A source informed Ciro that now only https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Taiwan_University[NTU] alumni can have an account.
Maybe the email requirement is the only way to prevent <<wumao,wumaos>> from flooding the website.
Normal people see it on a web viewer hosted on: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/index.html
However it is fucking impossible to web archive that web interface because there is a cookie I'm 18-years-old confirmation before the first connection.
This shows how to connect for the first time: https://www.ptt.cc/index.firstbbs.html
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luit -encoding big5 telnet ptt.cc
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"本站目前暫停開放新帳號註冊。" "This site is currently suspended for new account registration."
And you try `new` it says: "目前無法註冊帳號![按任意鍵繼續]" "Account cannot be registered at this time."
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luit -encoding big5 telnet ptt2.cc
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Then there is a registration process that seem to require you to prove that you work at Taiwanese university, but not sure it is mandatory to post.
But I couldn't find Gossiping there either, which is the only board that matters, so not sure it is on this server.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIHKG
* https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIHKG討論區
<<hong-kong>> <<reddit>> clone. Requires a Hong Kong IP or university address to login, a bit in the spirit of <<ptt>> to avoid <<wumao>> invasion.
If it goes down, they created: https://www.reddit.com/r/LIHKG/ on <<reddit>>.
* 2020-08-24 https://lihkg.com/thread/2171918/page/1 "工信部培植代碼平台取代GitHub" (The Ministry of Industry and Information Technology cultivates a code platform to replace GitHub) linking to: https://hk.appledaily.com/china/20200823/AOAQRQURIRCT3D2DNPLMXUVC2M/ Then 菱川六花 linked to this page on a comment. Too young, too naive, they did not know about the more specific and interesting https://gitee.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship from <<gitee-censorship>>
* 2019-10-31 https://lihkg.com/thread/1685513/page/3 "Notepad{plus}{plus}新版代號「自由維吾爾」,GitHub網頁被灌爆,網站遭DDoS" about <<notepad>> "Free Uyghur" version. On page 3 comment links to Ciro's <<stack-overflow>> account. Big thread with 500+ likes.
* 2019-10-05 https://lihkg.com/thread/1625310/page/1 "聽講GitHub好好用" (Attending lectures on GitHub is very useful.). But likely some <<slang,slang>> for politics, because on first comment "可以好好上去發表下愛國論". Then someone links to <<nine-nine-six-icu>>, then to the GitHub <<mirrors,mirror of this page>>, and then to <<gitee>>.
* 2018-07-31 https://lihkg.com/thread/762440/page/1 https://archive.is/7REOi. Title: "依條友都幾屈機, 係Stack overflow撚共匪". I'm unable to understand the first sentence, but the end is something along "to play tricks on the commies". First comment (likely by OP): "佢個個人home page好多5毛留言, 唔知會唔會搞到block堆stackoverflow". The entire thread is about Ciro's <<stack-overflow>>.
[[hkgolden]]
===== HKGolden (香港高登讨论区)
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HKGolden
* https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/高登討論區
Do the names mean anything? Are they owned? The fact that they are Alexa top 1000 domains is just so funny, Google redirects for China.
Alexa top 1000 domains and blocked in China as per <<greatfire>>:
* https://gdl5vtbbv0lj.com
* https://au79nt5wic4x.com
https://library.ac.cn/ large list of university Google/Google Scholar/Wikipedia/Twitter mirrors maintained by Chinese university students under an unified system. Each one asks for verification that you are from that university via some little known fact about the university:
* https://g.luciaz.me from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhejiang_University[Zhejiang University] "需要验证您是否来自浙江大学". Question: "请问浙江大学内网最大的论坛中, 每天发帖量最大的版块是哪个?" (Ask your colleagues on the internal forum, what is the most popular section of the forum every day?)
* https://g0.njuu.cf/ from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_University[Nanjing University] "需要验证您是否来自南京大学" Question: "西大楼是哪个系的?" (Which department is in the big Western building?)
* https://g0.library.edu.eu.org/
* https://chacha.design/
* https://g0.nuaa.cf/
* https://g1.liuxiongb.in/
* https://google.zenith.workers.dev/
* https://proxy.juchiahau.com/
* https://seeres.com 闭站维护中
* https://www.muzhiso.net/
* https://www.sanzhima.com/
* https://google.independentlyreview.com/ see also the <<github>> one by the same creator, described at <<mirrors>>
* http://g.histsci.org/
* http://o.poetpalace.org/
* https://oneplj.com/webhp broken HTTPS
* https://cjh0613.github.io/blog/GoogleMirror.html
[[anti-ccp-info-sources]]
== Anti-CCP information sources (反中共信息来源)
https://www.reddit.com/r/China[] is what Ciro uses daily for news, see also: <<reddit>>
* <<github-repositories-with-censored-information>>
* <<terminus2049>>
* <<anti-ccp-media>>
* <<backlinks>>
* https://www.reddit.com/r/China is arguably the best as of 2020, see: <<r-china>>
* https://www.reddit.com/r/fucktheccp/ small as of 2020 but promising
* https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong had 3x more users than r/china as of 2020 after <<2019-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests>>.
** https://www.reddit.com/r/FragrantHarbour/ another Honk Kong one, TODO vs r/HongKong.
* https://www.reddit.com/r/CCP_virus/ for <<covid>>
* https://www.reddit.com/r/tibet/ 3k subs 2020
* https://www.reddit.com/r/ChinaMemes 2.5k subs 2021-03
* https://www.reddit.com/r/saraba2nd/ (第二新S1市) modded by <<chinatimeline>> TODO title meaning
* https://www.reddit.com/r/BoycottChina/
* China Circle Jerk subs (CCJ). TODO: these appear to be <<politically-incorrect,politically incorrect>> subs, but they do seem to allow anti-commit info. As of 2020, they were either banned or private:
** https://www.reddit.com/r/CCJ
** https://www.reddit.com/r/CCJ2
* https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam as of 2020 a large part of it was China specific:
** https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam/comments/n29kc3/upvote_this_absolute_chad_to_piss_off_the_tankies/
** https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam/comments/lpqn0e/tankies_truly_are_among_the_worst_people_alive/
** https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam/comments/mefx7x/a_proud_commie_tradition/
** https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam/comments/nml4jg/john_cena_sold_out/
** https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam/comments/o950d4/okay_but_next_time_itll_work_for_real/ photo of Xi Jinping with text: "Yo guys, I promise, worker democracy is coming right after a few hundred years of totalitarian state capitalism with Chinese characteristics."
** https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam/comments/nrkkqh/today_is_the_32nd_anniversary_of_the_tiananmen/ "Today is the 32nd anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre. This is a photo of its aftermath. Death to the CCP." Night photo of dead people and bicycles on <<tiananmen>>
* https://www.reddit.com/r/taiwan/
* https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/
* https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/ (流浪防区) https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/mnbpum/if_you_want_to_experience_the_censorship_and/ claims pro-CCP, but e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/comments/mn68dy/各位键委如何看待gfw/ has <<gfw>> talks
* https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/
A large part of the posts has controversial material.
Has some noise of course as well, but less than other media I find.
Reddit was banned in China in August 2018: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/965k4c/reddit_banned_in_china/
<<tencent>> will invest 150 million on Reddit in 2019: https://gizmodo.com/reddit-banned-in-china-is-reportedly-set-to-land-150-1832375439 See also: <<biased-media>>.
Overview of their culture: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ChonglangTV
Chinese language, pretty good content, anti-CCP samples:
* 2020-03-27 https://www.reddit.com/r/chonglangTV/comments/mdlowp/ciro这人行能处/ (Ciro is nice)
* 2021-02 https://www.reddit.com/r/chonglangTV/comments/lf5dy5/致那些坚持认为不会翻墙者不配看墙外东西的粉红/
* 2021-01 https://www.reddit.com/r/chonglangTV/comments/kpulab/最双标的人/ (the people with the most double standards, 双标 is a short form or 双重标准), comments how China complained when the US imposed sanctions on <<huawei>>, while China itself had already banned everything from the West
* 2021 https://www.reddit.com/r/chonglangTV/comments/lyxlf9/不_言_而_喻一_目_了_然/ has a cartoon about <<jack-mas-disappearance-2021>>. Ciro's actually going to steal that.
Any comment critical of China and mods immediately ban you, e.g. on 2020-08-21 at https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/ie0mak/china_is_building_a_github_alternative_called/ which is related to <<gitee>>, <<ciro-santilli>> commented:
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Let's see how long it takes them to block my repo/account: https://gitee.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship | http://web.archive.org/web/20200821202450/https://gitee.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship
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You have been permanently banned from participating in r/Sino. You can still view and subscribe to r/Sino, but you won't be able to post or comment.
Try https://www.reddit.com/r/westerner/[r/westerner] TRASH doesn't get by mods here. Tiananmen Square is vindicated by China's development. Anti terror system in Xinjiang is working. End result for HK is the same since 1997, regardless of rioters. Scientology-esque FLG/Shen Yun cult show has failed for decades, if you believe their claims, it's all of them losing badly.
Dec 31 China informed WHO about mysterious pneumonia. Jan 11 Chinese reveal virus genome Jan 23 Wuhan quarantine - businessinsider/sciencemag
You had the genome and saw the lengths China went to. Don't blame others for failing months later.
US accused of 'modern piracy' after diversion of masks meant for Europe - theguardian
Democracies Are Better at Fighting Outbreaks - theatlantic XD
The US leads in coronavirus cases, but not pandemic response - sciencemag XD
Beliefs of founder cultleader of Falun Gong from own lectures on official falundafa site https://redd.it/42wlvf
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Completely pro-Putin, e.g. removed https://www.reddit.com/r/russia/comments/kd21ck/cnnbellingcat_investigation_identifies_russian/ about <<the-poisoning-of-alexei-navalny-2020>>
* https://www.instagram.com/hongkongprotestposters/
* https://t.me/anticcpbase
* https://t.me/ccp_unmasked see also: <<knowlesys>>
* https://twitter.com/i/lists/221848102 anti-ccp
* https://twitter.com/i/lists/235201419 pro-ccp
* https://twitter.com/zaikandongxi
* After <<unjust-social-media-censorship-in-the-west,Trump was unfairly banned from Twitter>>, his social media team created an amazing "Chongald Xrump" account <<what-should-western-countries-do-about-china,pretending ridiculously to be a CCP PR person>>, it had really good posts.
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But that amazing account was banned: https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-sneaks-back-on-twitter-by-disguising-self-as-pr-rep-for-chinese-communist-party Twitter is <<politically-incorrect,trying really hard>> to beat the <<censorship,CCP at its own game>>.
* 2021-07 https://apnews.com/article/china-business-technology-3741dcfb1c2eb11f17280c9ed8c06fc4 "Twitter restricts account of expert who mocked China leader" Anne-Marie Brady https://twitter.com/Anne_MarieBrady
* 2021-04-08: publicly supported the <<milk-tea-alliance>>
Unfair censorship:
* 2021-08-12 https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/11/twitter-locks-account-of-india-congress-largest-opposition-party/ Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party (Indian National Congress)
* 2021-08-10 https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/10/marjorie-taylor-greene-mjt-twitter-suspension/ Twitter suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene temporarily for spreading vaccine misinformation
[[trump-twitter-kuang-biao]]
.Cartoon showing Donald Trump's mouth sewn shut in a "Twitter" shape by <<kuang-biao>> (2021) after Trump was <<unjust-social-media-censorship-in-the-west,banned from Twitter>>. You know it's bad when the artists who normally criticize the <<ccp,CCP>> start to criticize you. <<rebel-pepper>>'s https://www.rfa.org/english/cartoons/twitter-china-cartoon-06052020164712.html["I can't Tweet"] comes to mind, although it was about <<racist-west>> instad. https://xueqiu.com/9870976009/168210673[Source].
image::{china-dictatorship-media-base}/Trump_silenced_by_Twitter_by_Kuang_Biao.jpg[height=400]
[[gfwfrog]]
==== GFWfrog (墙国蛙蛤蛤)
* https://twitter.com/GFWfrog 墙国蛙蛤蛤
* https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzTs_yRgwD88hZQNvmUwzJA
The username is a reference to a frog that jumps over the <<gfw>>.
Amazing selection of Chinese-only anti-CCP content.
Many western Pro CCP accounts: <<ccp-apologists>>.
[[winnie-the-pool]]
==== Winnie the Pool (乳透社·小池塘,XJP音源,习近平音源)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjGMgaDmTJtyWl4QCbHJlig 乳透社·小池塘Winnie the Pool. Basically a bunch of anti-Xi Jinping YouTube poop in Chinese.
* https://twitter.com/Ruters0615
* https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr9pkYrfp6QumE11R9A9gqQ 乳透社·小反旗 sister channel
Many of their videos use their <<xi-jinping-speech-synthesizer>> system called XJP音源(习近平音源). It is mentioned in the description of videos e.g.
* https://twitter.com/ruters0615/status/1227823202522427392 gives some voice synthesis methods used
<<github>> reupload: https://github.com/cirosantilli/xijinping-yinyuan
* https://independence-of-mind.tumblr.com/ 独立思考社群 (Independent thought society)
=== Medium
Pro-CCP:
* https://leohezhao.medium.com/
If a large number of people in a given region want to leave an country strongly or have greater autonomy, <<ciro-santilli>> believes that they should be allowed to do so.
* if they don't feel they are getting a good deal out of your country, it is unfair to keep them in
* keeping them in the country forcibly implies large scale violation of human rights: mass incarceration and removing freedom of speech.
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Which in turn implies terrorist backslash.
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All of which are against <<ciro-santilli>>'s principles.
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[[luxor]]
.https://youtube.com/watch?v=eouBCMPtNDQ?t=1170 "It happened in ... Luxor" by Al Jazeera English (2011) is a short documentary about the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxor_massacre[Luxor massacre in Egypt (1997)]. At this timestamp, survivor https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_E._Müller[Felix Mueller] whose girlfriend was killed in the attack comments that it is when people don't have an official way to express their needs due to censorship that they are more likely to turn to terrorism to express themselves.
video::fASh2_RzMuE[youtube,height=400,width=600,start=1170]
What makes Ciro the maddest is the censorship. If you are going to put people in jail, write a clear law about it, and let international reporters come to see the situation.
But why do you do something and then hide it? Maybe because you are not doing the right thing?
Ciro also believes that although terrorists must be fought with all our strength, they must also be given some degree respect (interspersed simultaneously <<sacred-cows,with humour>>). He sometimes prefers the term "warriors" or "fighters", because their actions are largely indistinguishable from many ideological or purely greed based actions that larger nation states have done many times over and over. It is just a war, plain and simple.
The reason why they kill mostly civilians is that they don't have the means to kill the presidents those civilians elected. An amazing scene from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_of_Algiers[The Battle of Algiers (1966)] comes to mind. After the head of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_War[Algerian independence] movement and terrorist, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larbi_Ben_M%27hidi[Larbi Ben M'hidi] is arrested, the French military let him be interviewed by the press on 4 March 1967 https://youtu.be/uHWZkiBuKGY?t=5312 (TODO real words? Cannot find source):
Journalist: Don't you think that it is cowardly to use the handbags and pushchairs of your women to transport your bombs? Those bombs that make so many innocent victims? [Earlier in the movie, we saw women carriying bombs into the French areas of Algiers through those means]
Larbi Ben M'hidi: And you, don't you think that it is much more cowardly to drop on defenseless villages your napalm bombs that kill thousands times more? Obviously, with airplanes, it would have been much more convenient for us. Give us your bombers, and we will give you the pushchairs.
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Journalist: Ne trouvez-vous pas plutôt lâche d'utiliser les sacs et les couffins de vos femmes pour transporter vos bombes? Ces bombes qui font tant de victimes innocentes?
Larbi Ben M'hidi: Et vous, ne vous semble t-il beacoup plus lache de larguer sur des vilages sans défence vos bombes au napalme qui tuent mille fois plus d'innocents? Évidement, avec des avions, ca aurait été beaucoup plus comode pour nous. Donnez vous vos bombardiers monsieur, et on vous donnera les couffins.
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See also: <<western-democracies-have-invaded-other-countries-and-crushed-separatism>>.
[[taiwan]]
=== Taiwan (Republic of China, 台湾, 中華民國)
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan
* https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/中华民国
If you are interested in Taiwan, one important programmer forum is: <<ptt>>.
* https://youtube.com/watch?v=6aZkM_ZLvjE?t=50 (zh) "【這就是科學|柯文哲】EP3/從癌症治療看政治!除惡務盡→除惡「勿」盡?「與敵共存」才是生存之道!", 柯文哲, 2019-06-26. Ko Wen-je, the mayor of Taipei 台北 and a professor in medicine, applies the concept of isolation and mutation in evolution to Taiwan and China
* 2021-03-10 https://web.archive.org/web/20210310210519/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-10/asia-shoppers-snap-up-taiwan-pineapples-in-defiance-of-china-ban "Shoppers in Asia Snap Up Taiwan’s Pineapples in Defiance of China’s Ban". In 2018 there were <<fake-news>> about that apparently: https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3423317 but now it became true.
* https://www.zhihu.com/question/59337963 为什么西方国家不针对台湾? Why don't Western countries target Taiwan [in their criticisms]? First answer: because of something called <<dictatorship,dictatorship>>.
[[one-china-policy]]
==== One China policy (一个中国)
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-China_policy